Only problem Richard is that it ignores the most pressing questions such as:

1. What is the libelous content that justifies the charge?

2. Why the urgency now after it has been up for over 3 years?

3. Where is your humility? (God resists the proud but gives grace to the humble.)

Interesting how you would claim your piece addresses things pertinent when it evades the most central questions involved. A widely displayed fruit of PD living – claims that exceed fruits aka over-promising and under-delivering on the promise – whereas a fruit of Christ-likeness wold be to underpromise and over-deliver.

Humility and integrity on display – in other words.

My thoughts,
Bill

1. Bible Study notes on key passages being discussed (1 Cor. 6 and Matt. 18),
2. the actual contents of my email to Silva’s ISP,
3. observations about the current state of the church,
4. an indictment of today’s so-called Online Discernment Ministries, and
5. documentation of Ken Silva’s violation of federal copyright/privacy laws, and other issues.

The open letter should answer most questions and addressed the widely-read article by Steve Camp titled “Battles in the Blogsphere.”

Those who have ears to hear, and eyes to see, will both hear and see the truth.

Proverbs 18:13 reads: “He who answers before listening—that is his folly and his shame.”

Proverbs 18:17 tells us: “The first to present his case seems right, till another comes forward and questions him.”

Richard Abanes
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http://www.apprising.org/archives/2005/09/a_pastors_asses.html.

I agree, the consequences of this action may be a bit harsh farther down the road. It may very well back fire on him.

I have had a little interaction with Mr. Abanes in the past, asking questions about PDL and the theology of it, and I felt that by the time we were at the end of the discussion I was no farther convinced than I already was that there is error in the theology and teachings.

I am sadden by the actions that have been taken on his part. I certainly hope that a “root of bitterness” has not entangled him and has motivated him in these actions.

While I may not agree with Mr. Abanes and the PDL stuff that he so greatly supports, he still is a brother in Christ and I would hope and expect that he would follow the very commands and teachings of our Lord in his actions, and would have proceeded in a proper manner.

Tim H

I personally don’t feel there is much there in the way of a law suite, but I do feel there is much there in the way of posturing. and intimidation. But, it already looks as if the tables are turning on Richard. This act of arrogance will do more to hurt Richard than this now harmless historical piece by Ken Silva. Richard bet a big chunk on this move that I feel will cost him more in the long run than he ever hoped to gain. The Bible will again be proven correct that “pride cometh before a fall.”

Steve Blackwell

With all due respect I think you are lacking in discernment. So much of the argumentation of the world has to do with semantic juggling, and trying to get the advantage by playing with words. If you have any history of what has been going on between these two camps you would not have made such an uninformed comment. I would dare say that even a child could detect the smell coming off the heap Richard has dumped on Ken’s doorstep. I think the consensus of discerning Christians will agree that Richard has it in for any who oppose Rick Warren or himself and relishes the idea of having landed a significant blow to the ODM’s. I do respect your right to disagree, but you’ll not find many converts here to your thinking.

Steve Blackwell

But should a defamation suit somehow pop up then “the statement(s) alleged to be defamatory must also be a false statement of fact. That which is name-calling, hyperbole, or, however characterized, cannot be proven true or false, cannot be the subject of a libel or slander claim.”–MLRC (http://www.medialaw.org/Content/NavigationMenu/Public_Resources/Libel_FAQs/Libel_FAQs.htm#What%20is%20Libel?)

If this whole mess had taken place in a reasonable time frame after Silva’s article, then that would make sense from Abanes’ point of view. However, for him to make the ISP aware of his complaint after such a long time points to only one conclusion; Abanes was after Silva and more than likely guessed that Silva would not take down his article.

Of course, neither of us really knows what was going on in Abanes’ head, but after 3 years! I ain’t no rocket scientist, but then again, it doesn’t take one to see what happened.
fishon [jerry]