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		<title>By: sherry</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 09:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you.</description>
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		<title>By: IndyWatchman</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good morning,  
 
Thanks for visiting.  
 
We are all watchmen, and God is the Great Watchman who sees and knows all things. Nothing happens that God is not directly involved in, including American politics. There are many Scriptures that declare God&#039;s Sovereign rule over His creation, but the one that I quote most often is Prov 16:7 &quot;When a man&#039;s ways are pleasing to the Lord, he makes even his enemies live at peace with him.&quot; When we look at our nation and see how we are hated in the world and how our enemies no longer fear us, and we compare that with the Old Testament accounts of Israel&#039;s failures with God, we see plainly that our ways, like Israel&#039;s, do not please the Lord. George Barna&#039;s polls inform us that inside the &quot;Church,&quot; statistics of abortion, divorce, teen suicide, pornography, deceptive business practices, and a host of other things, mirror the world. What should this tell us? Well, that is easy, the world is running the Church, the organized church. God says it is evil, and I have to agree, and Paul tells the Corinthians that their meeting were doing more harm than good because of worldly influences. We want to be pure and holy for our Lord and we are told how we can do that, and it is by separating ourselves from the world, by removing the leaven, and if the world is inside the church (religious buildings) we attend, then we are told to &quot;come out from amongst them and be ye separate.&quot; I know that there are many of God&#039;s children sitting in pews, dealing with the same issues we discuss here and other places, who can&#039;t seem to sort things out or see clearly the things we see, so we must help. They have wandered off the path into religion and entertainment and are stuck. They may not know they are even stuck, they only sense that something is wrong. They will most likely reject any attempt of rescue and turn away, and possibly break off any friendship that exist, but that is what we are called to do. it will not win us any rewards on earth, but that is our job, to run a rescue mission for the lost and the stuck. All my daughters, I don&#039;t have any sons, are homeschooling their children, and we worship together often. We do not attend any religious buildings, although we do visit on occasions to leave tracts and talk with others seeking a true relationship with Jesus. We still have to deal with all the same issues that others face, because we are in the world, but we have found that a real Church body is something that can not meet only once a week and expect to win out over sin and Satan. The Christian life takes real resolve and dedication to bear fruit for God. Television was one of the first things to go, I speak for myself, my daughters and son-in-laws still have TV. TV, I feel it is a terrible evil and has infected the Body of Christ. But, God is calling out his Bride to ready herself and many are responding and hearing His voice. My prayers are with you Sherry, and your husband,  
 
God bless,  
 
Steve </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good morning,  </p>
<p>Thanks for visiting.  </p>
<p>We are all watchmen, and God is the Great Watchman who sees and knows all things. Nothing happens that God is not directly involved in, including American politics. There are many Scriptures that declare God&#039;s Sovereign rule over His creation, but the one that I quote most often is Prov 16:7 &quot;When a man&#039;s ways are pleasing to the Lord, he makes even his enemies live at peace with him.&quot; When we look at our nation and see how we are hated in the world and how our enemies no longer fear us, and we compare that with the Old Testament accounts of Israel&#039;s failures with God, we see plainly that our ways, like Israel&#039;s, do not please the Lord. George Barna&#039;s polls inform us that inside the &quot;Church,&quot; statistics of abortion, divorce, teen suicide, pornography, deceptive business practices, and a host of other things, mirror the world. What should this tell us? Well, that is easy, the world is running the Church, the organized church. God says it is evil, and I have to agree, and Paul tells the Corinthians that their meeting were doing more harm than good because of worldly influences. We want to be pure and holy for our Lord and we are told how we can do that, and it is by separating ourselves from the world, by removing the leaven, and if the world is inside the church (religious buildings) we attend, then we are told to &quot;come out from amongst them and be ye separate.&quot; I know that there are many of God&#039;s children sitting in pews, dealing with the same issues we discuss here and other places, who can&#039;t seem to sort things out or see clearly the things we see, so we must help. They have wandered off the path into religion and entertainment and are stuck. They may not know they are even stuck, they only sense that something is wrong. They will most likely reject any attempt of rescue and turn away, and possibly break off any friendship that exist, but that is what we are called to do. it will not win us any rewards on earth, but that is our job, to run a rescue mission for the lost and the stuck. All my daughters, I don&#039;t have any sons, are homeschooling their children, and we worship together often. We do not attend any religious buildings, although we do visit on occasions to leave tracts and talk with others seeking a true relationship with Jesus. We still have to deal with all the same issues that others face, because we are in the world, but we have found that a real Church body is something that can not meet only once a week and expect to win out over sin and Satan. The Christian life takes real resolve and dedication to bear fruit for God. Television was one of the first things to go, I speak for myself, my daughters and son-in-laws still have TV. TV, I feel it is a terrible evil and has infected the Body of Christ. But, God is calling out his Bride to ready herself and many are responding and hearing His voice. My prayers are with you Sherry, and your husband,  </p>
<p>God bless,  </p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: sherry</title>
		<link>http://www.indywatchman.com/2009/09/27/cry-baby-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-329</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 10:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings Steve,

I have visited your site often via PK’s site, though this is the first time I have commented - - I usually read and leave, having nothing more to add, and I really have not much to add here except a hearty AMEN!   

God called me out of organized religion 3+ years ago, and then shortly afterwards  led me away from the political scene – not that I was that involved, but I nonetheless participated in viewing and voting, I now do not vote and rarely even watch TV, let alone political mumbo jumbo… though my husband is heavily into it and a huge supporter of Obama, so I unfortunately have it in my hearing range quite often – and my heart just has a mixture of ache and anger while hearing what is spewed.  All parties are the same to me though -and as you put it in this article, “…but the lesser of two evils is still evil.”    

And I agree with PK in his statement about not putting much stock into the Nicene Creed or much of what these &quot;fathers&#039; wrote, for as great as they appear to be, the focus is still not on Christ.

Shalom,
sherry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings Steve,</p>
<p>I have visited your site often via PK’s site, though this is the first time I have commented &#8211; - I usually read and leave, having nothing more to add, and I really have not much to add here except a hearty AMEN!   </p>
<p>God called me out of organized religion 3+ years ago, and then shortly afterwards  led me away from the political scene – not that I was that involved, but I nonetheless participated in viewing and voting, I now do not vote and rarely even watch TV, let alone political mumbo jumbo… though my husband is heavily into it and a huge supporter of Obama, so I unfortunately have it in my hearing range quite often – and my heart just has a mixture of ache and anger while hearing what is spewed.  All parties are the same to me though -and as you put it in this article, “…but the lesser of two evils is still evil.”    </p>
<p>And I agree with PK in his statement about not putting much stock into the Nicene Creed or much of what these &#8220;fathers&#8217; wrote, for as great as they appear to be, the focus is still not on Christ.</p>
<p>Shalom,<br />
sherry</p>
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		<title>By: IndyWatchman</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 23:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,   
   
One of the greatest things Jesus said, if I might state it this way, is when He claimed equality with the Father by saying, &quot;Before Abraham was, I Am.&quot; If He merely wanted to establish His pre-existence He could have said &quot;before Abraham was, I was.&quot; Jesus is taking great liberty with that statement, and in it we go back to that day when Moses talked with God in the burning bush, and asked what name he should give the God who was sending him to the children of Israel. God told him to tell them that &quot;I Am&quot; has sent you unto them. Without getting into a detailed examination of God&#039;s many names it is easy to see that the name &quot;I Am&quot; is an incomplete sentence, it has no subject, why? Jehovah (I Am) purposely left that sentence incomplete so that we could fill it in with what ever need we happen to have at the time. Jesus was reminding these Jews of God&#039;s ability to fill every need that could arise, and that He himself is the fulfillment of our deepest desires and needs. Do you need strength, I Am your strength. Do you need healing, I Am your healer. Do you need provisions, I Am your provider. I Am_____________, you fill in the blank. But, the Church today just doesn&#039;t get it. Jesus is still everything we need, not tax perks that come only at the expense of disobedience and binding ourselves to the world. The Church operates in the flesh and when it gets everything going its way it gives praise to God, when it wasn&#039;t God at all (at least in the faith sense of the appropriation) it was operating on the level of the flesh. I recommend that Christians read about Hudson Taylor (The Spiritual Secrets of Hudson Taylor) and learn what real faith looks like, it is very rare today.     
   
We have much to learn in these last days, but I am afraid that the curve will be too great for most.    
   
Blessings my friend,   
   
Steve Blackwell   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,   </p>
<p>One of the greatest things Jesus said, if I might state it this way, is when He claimed equality with the Father by saying, &amp;quot;Before Abraham was, I Am.&amp;quot; If He merely wanted to establish His pre-existence He could have said &amp;quot;before Abraham was, I was.&amp;quot; Jesus is taking great liberty with that statement, and in it we go back to that day when Moses talked with God in the burning bush, and asked what name he should give the God who was sending him to the children of Israel. God told him to tell them that &amp;quot;I Am&amp;quot; has sent you unto them. Without getting into a detailed examination of God&amp;#039;s many names it is easy to see that the name &amp;quot;I Am&amp;quot; is an incomplete sentence, it has no subject, why? Jehovah (I Am) purposely left that sentence incomplete so that we could fill it in with what ever need we happen to have at the time. Jesus was reminding these Jews of God&amp;#039;s ability to fill every need that could arise, and that He himself is the fulfillment of our deepest desires and needs. Do you need strength, I Am your strength. Do you need healing, I Am your healer. Do you need provisions, I Am your provider. I Am_____________, you fill in the blank. But, the Church today just doesn&amp;#039;t get it. Jesus is still everything we need, not tax perks that come only at the expense of disobedience and binding ourselves to the world. The Church operates in the flesh and when it gets everything going its way it gives praise to God, when it wasn&amp;#039;t God at all (at least in the faith sense of the appropriation) it was operating on the level of the flesh. I recommend that Christians read about Hudson Taylor (The Spiritual Secrets of Hudson Taylor) and learn what real faith looks like, it is very rare today.     </p>
<p>We have much to learn in these last days, but I am afraid that the curve will be too great for most.    </p>
<p>Blessings my friend,   </p>
<p>Steve Blackwell</p>
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		<title>By: Prodigal Knot</title>
		<link>http://www.indywatchman.com/2009/09/27/cry-baby-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-326</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 23:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on, Steve!  
 
I feel exactly the same, though I&#039;m not always sure how Jesus would deal with all these issues. I am forever bothered by announcements that the church is having meeting in order to &quot;comply with the law&quot; or local requirements.  Still, we are IN the world, and we are to seek peace, as much as possible, so that we can live peaceably. 
 
Like you, I&#039;ve pretty much given up on politics, since it&#039;s quite obvious that Repulcans and Dems are pretty much made of the same cloth when push comes to shove. I hapr on this a lot, but the average Christian has no comprehension of the harm that was begun when Constantine and the church colluded to contaminate the church with political favoritism. This is also why I no longer put any stock in the Nicaean Creed, or much of what these &quot;fathers&#039; wrote, including those favorites, Ambrose and Augustine. They were all compromised by their collaboration with the &quot;State&quot;. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on, Steve!  </p>
<p>I feel exactly the same, though I&#039;m not always sure how Jesus would deal with all these issues. I am forever bothered by announcements that the church is having meeting in order to &quot;comply with the law&quot; or local requirements.  Still, we are IN the world, and we are to seek peace, as much as possible, so that we can live peaceably. </p>
<p>Like you, I&#039;ve pretty much given up on politics, since it&#039;s quite obvious that Repulcans and Dems are pretty much made of the same cloth when push comes to shove. I hapr on this a lot, but the average Christian has no comprehension of the harm that was begun when Constantine and the church colluded to contaminate the church with political favoritism. This is also why I no longer put any stock in the Nicaean Creed, or much of what these &quot;fathers&#039; wrote, including those favorites, Ambrose and Augustine. They were all compromised by their collaboration with the &quot;State&quot;.</p>
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