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	<title>Comments on: Brian McLaren Imagines He Knows Jesus</title>
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		<title>By: Prodigal Knot</title>
		<link>http://www.indywatchman.com/2010/02/05/brian-mclaren-imagines-he-knows-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-744</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 06:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey brother!

I agree with your take on Mr. &quot;Blind&quot; McLAren&#039;s attempt to use Jesus as a foil for advocating that homosexuality is just a reasonable lifestyle. That IS what he is inferring. This is why I get sick of the term &quot;God loves you unconditionally.&quot; It also infers that God isn&#039;t about punishment or wrath or even disapproval. You, as long as you &quot;believe&quot; can do no wrong. If that were the case then there would be no such promise of replies like, &quot;Depart from me! I never knew you!&quot;.

While I am against a united &quot;Christian&quot; front that attacks organizations and businesses for supporting, advertizing to or promoting homosexuality, McLaren does exactly what you accuse him of: stopping short of telling the whole truth. Which means he&#039;s a liar, just like Satan. 

I won&#039;t refuse to do business with, or work with, or live next to a gay person. But, I will not ever wink at that lifestyle or accept it as a legitimate way of living any more than I would pat a neighbor on the back or play along with one who I knew was cheating on his wife. Some things are just wrong and while Jesus showed mercy, He did not fail to judge adultery as sin that must be forsaken; not just forgiven.</description>
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<p>I agree with your take on Mr. &#8220;Blind&#8221; McLAren&#8217;s attempt to use Jesus as a foil for advocating that homosexuality is just a reasonable lifestyle. That IS what he is inferring. This is why I get sick of the term &#8220;God loves you unconditionally.&#8221; It also infers that God isn&#8217;t about punishment or wrath or even disapproval. You, as long as you &#8220;believe&#8221; can do no wrong. If that were the case then there would be no such promise of replies like, &#8220;Depart from me! I never knew you!&#8221;.</p>
<p>While I am against a united &#8220;Christian&#8221; front that attacks organizations and businesses for supporting, advertizing to or promoting homosexuality, McLaren does exactly what you accuse him of: stopping short of telling the whole truth. Which means he&#8217;s a liar, just like Satan. </p>
<p>I won&#8217;t refuse to do business with, or work with, or live next to a gay person. But, I will not ever wink at that lifestyle or accept it as a legitimate way of living any more than I would pat a neighbor on the back or play along with one who I knew was cheating on his wife. Some things are just wrong and while Jesus showed mercy, He did not fail to judge adultery as sin that must be forsaken; not just forgiven.</p>
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		<title>By: indywatchman</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 19:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>letusfollowhim,

It doesn’t surprise me that this article is taken to be “over the top,” I suspected that it would be when I wrote it, but is that really the case? With Brian McLaren, the lines are so distorted and the meanings so confused, that if you are not able to “read between the lines” i.e., to discern his intent and purpose, you could easily find yourself tasting the apple of his heresy, and denying Christ without realizing that you have become anathema to everything you once believed. If an error is to be made let it be made on the side of being a little “over the top” and “. . .hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.” Jude 1:23.

Brian intentionally left the last part of the verse he quoted off, because it would have ruined and exposed his deception. He not only does his dirty work here, in this fantasy, he does it with everything he touches.

The criticism I have with Brian’s piece has nothing to do with a particular stand for or against homosexuals, it is against his misuse of God’s Word. My stand is against his falsifying the “Truth” to accomplish his own agenda of political tolerance. I could care less what the world does, it is not my job to march on Washington, or to vote for the lesser of two evils, or to campaign for some politician. We see the things happening to the Church and the Country because of the wretched state of affairs inside the Body of Christ. God has stated in His Word that when our “ways please the Lord, that He causes even our enemies to live at peace with us.” Brian thinks it is his job to distort God’s word to promote political action, to accomplish what he “imagines” is God’s will. Brian is a liar, just like his father, the Devil.

I do appreciate your comments, but remember we are not a political action blog promoting a false sense of godliness through a liberal dominionist philosophy. When we get our lives right with God, then God Himself, will heal this land.

Thanks,

Steve Blackwell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>letusfollowhim,</p>
<p>It doesn’t surprise me that this article is taken to be “over the top,” I suspected that it would be when I wrote it, but is that really the case? With Brian McLaren, the lines are so distorted and the meanings so confused, that if you are not able to “read between the lines” i.e., to discern his intent and purpose, you could easily find yourself tasting the apple of his heresy, and denying Christ without realizing that you have become anathema to everything you once believed. If an error is to be made let it be made on the side of being a little “over the top” and “. . .hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.” Jude 1:23.</p>
<p>Brian intentionally left the last part of the verse he quoted off, because it would have ruined and exposed his deception. He not only does his dirty work here, in this fantasy, he does it with everything he touches.</p>
<p>The criticism I have with Brian’s piece has nothing to do with a particular stand for or against homosexuals, it is against his misuse of God’s Word. My stand is against his falsifying the “Truth” to accomplish his own agenda of political tolerance. I could care less what the world does, it is not my job to march on Washington, or to vote for the lesser of two evils, or to campaign for some politician. We see the things happening to the Church and the Country because of the wretched state of affairs inside the Body of Christ. God has stated in His Word that when our “ways please the Lord, that He causes even our enemies to live at peace with us.” Brian thinks it is his job to distort God’s word to promote political action, to accomplish what he “imagines” is God’s will. Brian is a liar, just like his father, the Devil.</p>
<p>I do appreciate your comments, but remember we are not a political action blog promoting a false sense of godliness through a liberal dominionist philosophy. When we get our lives right with God, then God Himself, will heal this land.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Steve Blackwell</p>
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		<title>By: indywatchman</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 19:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>letusfollowhim

though i am not a fan of anything that McLaren writes or believes, I think that you might have gone a little over the top with reading between the lines on this one…. he simply stopped short of recreating what Jesus said at the end of that story because it was not really the point of the story.

this may come out kind of weird, but even though i believe homosexuality to be a sin, i am not really against legalizing gay ‘marriage’… to me, the point is that marriage in God’s eyes is between a man and a woman no matter what the government says about it.

I feel that the Christians who protest and put all their effort into stopping gay ‘marriage’ are saying by their actions “if gay marriage is legalized than the definition of marriage will have changed!”

i mean, i really don’t care if the government calls two men “married.” In God’s eyes they are not……..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>letusfollowhim</p>
<p>though i am not a fan of anything that McLaren writes or believes, I think that you might have gone a little over the top with reading between the lines on this one…. he simply stopped short of recreating what Jesus said at the end of that story because it was not really the point of the story.</p>
<p>this may come out kind of weird, but even though i believe homosexuality to be a sin, i am not really against legalizing gay ‘marriage’… to me, the point is that marriage in God’s eyes is between a man and a woman no matter what the government says about it.</p>
<p>I feel that the Christians who protest and put all their effort into stopping gay ‘marriage’ are saying by their actions “if gay marriage is legalized than the definition of marriage will have changed!”</p>
<p>i mean, i really don’t care if the government calls two men “married.” In God’s eyes they are not……..</p>
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