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		<description><![CDATA[Establishing the Fact Why is it that every &#34;Christian&#34; thinks he or she is going to go to Heaven? The Bible is very plain concerning the fact that that isn&#8217;t going to happen. Everyone who says &#34;Lord, Lord&#34; will not make it. But, it doesn&#8217;t matter, wherever you go, or who ever you talk to, [...]]]></description>
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<p>Why is it that every &quot;Christian&quot; thinks he or she is going to go to Heaven? The Bible is very plain concerning the fact that that isn&rsquo;t going to happen. Everyone who says &quot;Lord, Lord&quot; will not make it. But, it doesn&rsquo;t matter, wherever you go, or who ever you talk to, they&rsquo;re all going.</p>
<p>Now, we have a little problem; either the Bible is incorrect or a whole lot of people have been deceived into thinking they have their ticket purchased and their trip all squared away, and they&rsquo;re just waiting on the bus. Of course the idea that the Bible is not the final word and not totally correct is becoming more popular, and the issue of &ldquo;having it all squared away&rdquo; is becoming less controversial; there is a general consensus that that particular point is settled and we&rsquo;re O.K., but the other idea, deception, ends up being the more realistic problem.</p>
<p>Deception, trickery, ruse, sham, fraud, con, cheat, what interesting words. Is it conceivable that so many Christians are deceived? Who is doing the deceiving? The preachers? The devil? The government? God? Maybe it is ourselves; Paul says, <em>&ldquo;&hellip;let no one deceive you&hellip;&rdquo;</em> as if we can only be deceived if we &ldquo;let&rdquo; ourselves be deceived. I can understand deception in the area of un-believers, but we&rsquo;re talking about &ldquo;Christians.&rdquo; Ask anyone who has raised their hand during a worship service and they can assure you that they have followed procedures and that their bus token, regardless of how &ldquo;straight&rdquo; or hard the gate is to get through is valid. Who is it then that the Lord was referring to when he said in Matt 7:21 <em>&ldquo;Not everyone who says to me, &#39;Lord, Lord,&#39; will enter the kingdom of heaven&#8230;&rdquo;</em> Paul, interestingly enough, encouraged Timothy to <em>&ldquo;lay hold of eternal life,&rdquo;</em> creating the notion that it might slip away, or tear itself loose from its mooring, that even he might be deceived. Deception, a very interesting concept indeed, and one that needs to be comprehended, after all, it could be soundly stated that we are living in the age of deception, at the end, when all the chips are on the table and the great contest of wills and wit comes down to &ldquo;the Lie,&rdquo; the bluff that will win the ranch away from so many deceived Christians. But it isn&rsquo;t just salvation that is at stake here, it is the whole body of Truth. This is a dangerous time, a time when we must be able to think clearly, &nbsp;to cut through the haze and fog, and discern Truth.</p>
<p>The Bible instructs us to comprehend the <em>&ldquo;signs of the times.&rdquo;</em> Even professional poker players, gamblers in this world, make their living knowing how to read signs or &ldquo;tells&rdquo; that enlighten them on how to stay in the game. The overriding principle of winning the game of poker is to &ldquo;put all the odds in your favor,&rdquo; so studying the cards, being able to read the other players, having discipline, and being consistent, are keys to winning. No professional poker player thinks poker is a game of chance; if he puts &ldquo;all&rdquo; the odds in his favor he knows he can win. There is something to be learned from their technique. We can put the odds in our favor by knowing how to read the signs of the times (discernment Jn. 16:13), by studying Jesus (Heb 12:2-3), looking for the &ldquo;tells&rdquo; which expose false teaching (Matt. 7:20), living a disciplined life in the Lord (walking in the Spirit Gal. 5:16), and by being consistent (faithful Jas. 1:6). We can not allow our salvation to become a game of &ldquo;chance;&rdquo; we must not be deceived.</p>
<p style="text-align: center; "><strong>Re-discovering the Path</strong></p>
<p>Things have been going the way they are at present for an extremely long time. If we are deceived, when did the deception sneak in? We should be able to look into the past and discover the point at which the path was departed. At the point of exit is where we must return. We need to begin with a firm foundation, of belief and doctrine (1Tim. 4:16), from which we can establish a boundary marker or a base, and then we can determine if those markers have been moved or tampered with. Once we see where the boundaries belong we can alter our heading to resume the correct path. Getting back to where we belong will mean an exercise of extreme faith and discipline, saving ourselves (Phil 2:12,13), and becoming a beacon of light for those who follow. The laws of inertia have a cementing effect on men, especially men who have become weak and at rest, and much effort will be involved to get them moving again, effort directed by the Holy Spirit.</p>
<p>First, we need to establish the fact that it is conceivable that <em>the masses of mankind can be deceived</em>. If this fact cannot be firmly established then we are wasting a lot of time looking for something that may not even exist. We talked about discovering the old surveyor&rsquo;s marker that determines what the standard should be, the boundary marker that tells us that we can go this far and no farther. Now we are at the spot where we have to ask ourselves,<em> &ldquo;Will I believe what the marker says or will I be enticed to move the marker and break through the wall into areas I&rsquo;m not permitted.&rdquo;</em> The Bible is our standard; it is the ancient boundary stone that we are forbidden to move at our own hurt. Hos 5:10 says <em>&quot;The leaders of Judah have become the lowest sort of thieves&rdquo; </em>as those who move boundary markers to steal property from their brothers and from the Lord (see Dt. 19:14, 27:17). The truth is we have moved it many, many, times over the past two thousand years and that is why we are wandering and confused, desiring Agape (Divine love), Koinonia (fellowship and sharing), and Ecclesia (the gathering of the saints) but knowing deep inside it is more our imagination than reality. We get the sense of it, the scent of it, like a flower we can&rsquo;t see, and we know it exist because we can smell it. It is genuine and it is that yearning, for the real thing, not the &ldquo;replica,&rdquo; which demands that we press forward; it is the smell of our Lord that we sense and it is He that draws us to Himself. It is Jesus who is the boundary marker, the standard, and it is He that the Bible speaks of, from beginning to end. Jesus can be trusted and He Himself cautioned us to, <em>&ldquo;Take heed that no one deceives you for many will come in My name, saying, &#39;I am the Christ,&#39; and will deceive many&rdquo;</em>( Matthew 24:4-5). <em>&ldquo;Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many&rdquo;</em> (v. 11.) <em>&ldquo;For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect&rdquo;</em> (v. 11). Note the words Jesus used: <em>&quot;. . . Many will come . . . and will deceive many . . . Many false prophets will rise up and deceive many.&quot;</em> The Greek word polus, translated &quot;many,&quot; means &quot;many, much, great&quot; (Vine&#39;s Complete Expository Dictionary of Old and New Testament Words, 1985, &quot;Many&quot;). This deception is clearly massive and widespread. Who is the real mastermind behind this worldwide deception?<em>&quot;. . . Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works&quot;</em> (2 Corinthians 11:14-15).</p>
<p align="center"><strong>Satan&#39;s&nbsp;<span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 15px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-weight: normal; font-size: small; "><em style="font-weight: bold; font-style: normal; ">Modus Operandi, DECEPTION</em></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 15px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-weight: normal; font-size: small; ">&nbsp;</span>&nbsp;</strong></p>
<p><em>&quot;But I fear, lest somehow, as <strong>the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness</strong>, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted&mdash;you may well put up with it!&quot;</em> (2 Corinthians 11:3-4.)</p>
<p><em>&quot;I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but <strong>there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ&quot;</strong> </em>(Galatians 1:6-7).</p>
<p>Jesus Christ predicted that some would take His name and claim to represent Him&mdash;but those same people would be deceivers. They would claim to be Christian but would bring a different message and a counterfeit Christianity. In Paul&#39;s day this movement was already well under way. Some were already preaching <em>&quot;another Jesus&quot;</em> and <em>&quot;a different gospel.&quot;</em> Most churches in our time focus on a gospel about Christ while ignoring the focus of His teaching. Obscuring His intended message, they preach a gospel that is different from <em>&quot;the Gospel of the kingdom of God&quot;</em>&nbsp;&nbsp;that Jesus taught (Mark 1:14, 15).</p>
<p align="center"><strong>What is the extent of this deception?</strong></p>
<p><em>&quot;&#8230; that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which <strong>deceiveth the whole world&quot;</strong></em> (Rev 12:9)</p>
<p><em>&ldquo;&hellip;and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should <strong>deceive the nations</strong> no more till the thousand years were finished. But after these things he must be released for a little while&rdquo;</em> (Rev 20:3).</p>
<p><em>&ldquo;Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison and will go out to<strong> deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth</strong>, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea&hellip;&rdquo;</em> (Rev 20:7-9).</p>
<p><em>&ldquo;Because of the signs he was given power to do on behalf of the first beast, <strong>he deceived the inhabitants of the earth&rdquo; </strong></em>(Rev 13:14).</p>
<p style="text-align: center; "><strong>Who is involved in this deception?</strong></p>
<p><em>&quot;For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ&quot;</em> (2 Corinthians 11:13) .</p>
<p>Within only a few years after Jesus Christ&#39;s death, people began to distort and misrepresent His message. When two decades had barely passed, the apostle Paul warned congregations about <em>&quot;false apostles,&quot;</em> telling them that he had already suffered at the hands of <em>&quot;false brethren&quot;</em> (2 Corinthians 11:13,26). These deceivers came in Christ&#39;s name, but they led many astray with their distorted message. By the time we reach AD 68 Jesus is telling John, in a vision, that if the Church did not do its first works over their candle stick would be removed. The social gospel had been born and was gaining a life of its own, a child of deception, and the offspring of Satan. The social gospel was no threat to Rome because they were of the same family. These corrupted believers could worship their god without the risk of persecution, just like the church in America and Europe.</p>
<p>In the face of &nbsp;persecution, that followed closely, the genuine &ldquo;Body of Christ&rdquo; grew at an astounding rate. Within 300 years nearly the whole known world had been Christianized. All of this took place as Satan and his demons were lighting up the Roman Empire with the bodies of Christians, turned into human torches; while hungry lions gorged themselves on the members of Christ&rsquo;s body; while Christians hid in caves and catacombs and fled for their lives into the vast reaches of the then known world, carrying with them the news of God&rsquo;s immense love, His Kingdom come to earth, as exhibited through the living Body of Christ, the Church.</p>
<p>In A.D. 311 the Emperor Constantine declared the Roman Empire a Christian nation and established Christianity as the state religion. Did you catch that? Now, believing became easy, as the cost was reduced and persecution stopped. The doors were swung wide and the pews became packed with unbelievers anxious to partake of this free lunch of &quot;Christian&quot; importance. The numbers grew steadily, for awhile. Today, in this same area of the world, Christianity has been reduced to just a handful of believers and persecution is on the rise again. With Constantine, building the church was something men did. Men sanctioned it, men sponsored it, and men built it, with earthly materials. It was decided by men that building, maintaining, and spreading Christianity was something best accomplished by trained experts. Jesus was no longer the living head of the church body but rather the absentee landlord who has become a symbolical figurehead of the new church organization. The Body of Christ had become an organization instead of the living organism that characterized the early church of the Book of Acts. Only rumors and spotty second hand accounts remained to identify this new church with the power of the Holy Spirit displayed in the form of gifts and miracles and supernatural love. The church, as warned by Jesus Christ, was now in the hands of its captors, with miracles, healings, dreams and visions, and prophesies, all of another sort.</p>
<p style="text-align: center; "><strong>An historical account taken from Schaff&rsquo;s History of the Church <br />
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<p>\Volume Three &#8211; From Constantine the Great to Gregory the Great (A.D. 311-590)\NICENE AND POST-NICENE CHRISTIANITY (A.D. 311-590)\1. Introduction and General View. &#8211; &sect;</p>
<p>1. Introduction and General View.</p>
<p>&ldquo;From the Christianity of the Apostles and Martyrs we proceed to the Christianity of the Patriarchs and Emperors.&rdquo; &ldquo;The third period of the history of the Church, which forms the subject of this volume, extends from the emperor Constantine to the pope Gregory I.; from the beginning of the fourth century to the close of the sixth. During this period Christianity still moves, as in the first three centuries, upon the geographical scene of the Graeco-Roman empire and the ancient classical culture, the countries around the Mediterranean Sea. But its field and its operation are materially enlarged, and even touch the barbarians on the limit of the empire. <strong>Above all, its relation to the temporal power, and its social and political position and import, undergo an entire and permanent change. </strong>We have here to do with the church of the Graeco-Roman empire, and with the beginning of Christianity among the Germanic barbarians. Let us glance first at the general character and leading events of this important period.&rdquo;</p>
<p>&ldquo;<strong>The reign of Constantine the Great marks the transition of the Christian religion from under persecution by the secular government to union with the same; the beginning of the state-church system.</strong> The Graeco-Roman heathenism, the most cultivated and powerful form of idolatry, which history knows, surrenders, after three hundred years&#39; struggle, to Christianity, and dies of incurable consumption, with the confession: Galilean, thou hast conquered! The ruler of the civilized world lays his crown at the feet of the crucified Jesus of Nazareth. The successor of Nero, Domitian, and Diocletian appears in <strong>the imperial purple at the council of Nice as protector of the church, and takes his golden throne at the nod of bishops, who still bear the scars of persecution.</strong> <strong>The despised sect, which, like its Founder in the days of His humiliation, had not where to lay its head, is raised to sovereign authority in the state, enters into the prerogatives of the pagan priesthood, grows rich and powerful, builds countless churches out of the stones of idol temples to the honor of Christ and his martyrs, employs the wisdom of Greece and Rome to vindicate the foolishness of the cross, exerts a molding power upon civil legislation, rules the national life, and leads off the history of the world. But at the same time the church, embracing the mass of the population of the empire, from the Caesar to the meanest slave, and living amidst all its institutions, received into her bosom vast deposits of foreign material from the world and from heathenism, exposing herself to new dangers and imposing upon herself new and heavy labors.&rdquo; </strong></p>
<p><strong>&ldquo;The union of church and state extends its influence, now healthful, now baneful, into every department of our history.&rdquo;</strong></p>
<p>&ldquo;The Christian life of the Nicene and post-Nicene age reveals a mass of worldliness within the church; an entire abatement of chiliasm with its longing after the return of Christ and his glorious reign, and in its stead an easy repose in the present order of things; with a sublime enthusiasm, on the other hand, for the renunciation of self and the world, particularly in the hermitage and the cloister, and with some of the noblest heroes of Christian holiness.&rdquo; &ldquo;Monasticism, in pursuance of the ascetic tendencies of the previous period, and in opposition to the prevailing secularization of Christianity, sought to save the virgin purity of the church and the glory of martyrdom by retreat from the world into the wilderness; and it carried the ascetic principle to the summit of moral heroism, though not rarely to the borders of fanaticism and brutish stupefaction. It spread with incredible rapidity and irresistible fascination from Egypt over the whole church, east and west, and received the sanction of the greatest church teachers, of an Athanasius, a Basil, a Chrysostom, an Augustine, a Jerome, as the surest and shortest way to heaven.</p>
<p>It soon became a powerful rival of the priesthood, and formed a third order, between the priesthood and the laity. The more extraordinary and eccentric the religion of the anchorets and monks, the more they were venerated among the people. <strong>The whole conception of the Christian life from the fourth to the sixteenth century is pervaded with the ascetic and monastic spirit, and pays the highest admiration to the voluntary celibacy, poverty, absolute obedience, and excessive self-punishments of the pillar-saints and the martyrs of the desert; while in the same degree the modest virtues of every-day household and social life are looked upon as an inferior degree of morality.&rdquo; </strong></p>
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<p>Today we have reached the pinnacle of pride and human glory in the man-made church and it is identified with a totally outward appearance but utterly lacking of inward substance. In the preface to his book The Knowledge of the Holy, A. W. Tozer says the reason for writing the book was &ldquo;called forth by a condition which has existed in the Church for some years and is steadily growing worse.&rdquo; &ldquo;Modern Christianity is simply not producing the kind of Christian who can appreciate or experience the life in the spirit.&rdquo; &ldquo;&#8230;The churches are more prosperous than at any time within the past several hundred years. But the alarming thing is that our gains are mostly external and our losses wholly internal; and since it is the quality of our religion that is affected by internal conditions, it may be that our supposed gains are but losses spread over a wider field.&rdquo;</p>
<p>When we look for the church today it can be found in these outward characteristics of architecture, religious symbolism, or the increase of knowledge and intelligence. Mans seeking &ldquo;his own&rdquo; glory is at the root of the problem. Their earth bound desire to unlock Holy Scripture reflects a similar incident, involving the Pharisees, related in Matt. 22:29 <em>&ldquo;You error, not knowing scripture, or the power of God.&rdquo;</em><strong> If we are not seeing God&rsquo;s results from God&rsquo;s Word then we are in ERROR and deceived.</strong> Even the disciples, after three years of teaching had to be rebuked for their unbelief. It wasn&rsquo;t because they didn&rsquo;t understand what they were told; it was because they did not believe what Christ said. <em>&ldquo;O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken&rdquo;</em> (Lk. 24:25-27). All the theological schools and universities and man made churches are filled to the hilt with deceived &ldquo;Christians&rdquo; trying to determine what God means in His word. Almost ninety times in the New Testament alone, an appeal is made to readers to just believe what &ldquo;is written,&rdquo; as if everything was simple enough to understand if you wanted to. Pride, self-will, self-deception, and rebellion against what &ldquo;is written&rdquo; are the causes of the Bible being hard to understand.</p>
<p>The Body of Christ today has become the invisible church, only to be found by very few. Today, as never before, it has become very apparent that all the building of our modern Tower of Babel has failed. The sheep of His flock have scattered and are lost and hungry and listening for a voice from heaven. Jesus promised that His sheep would hear His voice and would follow Him. The Good Shepard&rsquo;s voice is being heard now, even though faintly, calling His sheep out of the dark.</p>
<p align="center"><strong><em>&ldquo;My sheep know my voice&hellip;.&rdquo;</em></strong></p>
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<p align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial Black&quot;">Love Wins<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial Black&quot;">A New Book by Rob Bell<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Every marketer knows that it is the headline or title that causes most people to read news papers, or buy books. Advertisers will tell you that the most important thing when advertising is the headline. Pick up a Readers Digest, they have mastered the &quot;headline.&quot;</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Rob Bell knows this also.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#999999">LOVE WINS</span></span><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:Arial;<br />
color:silver">,</span></span> <span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp;</span><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:Arial;<br />
color:#A0A095">A Book About Heaven, Hell, and the Fate of Every Person Who Ever Lived. </span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Who can argue with the title of Rob&#39;s new book? What sect of Christianity, or any religion, would deny that Love wins in the end? <span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp;</span>The question comes down to the definition of &quot;love&quot; and where that definition comes from. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span">In the sixties we were bombarded with &quot;love,&quot; and we have seen what that experiment has produced; a whole generation of babies murdered in the womb. Today, love is in the air once again, and Rob Bell has captured the essence of this love fest by making scandalous claims against God. He has put words into the mouth of God that are pure and simple lies; Rob has made God a liar. Rob&#39;s definition of love has been plucked out of thin air, and can nowhere be found in the document given to us by God Himself. Rob&#39;s definition of love comes not from the Living God, so it must come from another source. Where, or who, might that source be?There is only one other source; if it is not from Heaven then, it is from Hell; if it is not God, then it is Satan. This is a trustworthy saying, because it comes from the Book of Truth, the Bible, God&#39;s own words. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span">Rob Bell understands marketing, and knows there is a &quot;market&quot; for his version of love. There has always been a market for Rob&#39;s version of love, because it appeals to the sensitivities of men and women wanting to fashion a life of love, on a definition that in no way interrupts their efforts to feed their desires or require absolute truth and repentance.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span">Rob Bell, is in effect playing god, like so many before him. Mary Baker Eddy, Joseph Smith, L Ron Hubbard, Sun Myung Moon, <span style="color:black">Charles Taze Russell, the Pope, and the beat goes on, and on, and on. These all pretend to have esoteric knowledge, i.e. understandable by only an enlightened inner circle. They all regard themselves to be able to know some hidden interpretation of Scripture other than what is plainly stated. At least the others claim to have had some supernatural experience, or angelic guidance, but Rob, he just sucks his knowledge out of thin air, or worse yet relies on his heart, which the Bible says <i>is &quot;deceptive beyond all things.&quot;</i><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="color:black">I will give credit to Rob for one thing, he got the title right. Unfortunately, everything else is wrong. From his web site,</span></span></p>
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color:#A0A095">Rob Bell addresses one of the most controversial issues of faith&mdash;the afterlife&mdash;arguing, would a loving God send people to eternal torment forever&#8230;? With searing insight, </span></span><st1:city><st1:place><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:Arial;<br />
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color:#A0A095"> puts hell on trial, and his message is decidedly hopeful&mdash;eternal life doesn&rsquo;t start when we die; it starts right now. And ultimately, Love Wins.</span> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span">The question becomes, is Rob Bell right, or is the Bible right. Where do we derive truth? Rob claims that with his &quot;searing insight&quot; he can put God on trial. Since it is God/Jesus that talks so much about hell and the &quot;searing&quot; reality of the place, it is really God who is on trial in Rob&#39;s court, and he finds God guilty of lying. Rob, through his omniscience, has discovered knowledge, that even God was unaware of.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp; </span>Although Rob has gotten the title right, we must conclude that the love he speaks of is not the love spoken of in the Bible. The truth is that God has found Rob Bell guilty of &quot;presumption.&quot; He has presumed to know God better than God knows Himself, and that what God has made known, is not what He really meant. The Hebrew word za&middot;dhohn&prime;, rendered &ldquo;presumptuousness,&rdquo; is derived from the verb zidh, meaning &ldquo;boil up, become heated.&rdquo; (Ge 25:29; Ex </span><st1:time hour="21" minute="14"><span class="apple-style-span">21:14</span></st1:time><span class="apple-style-span">) The heat of anger or pride can cause one to act rashly, to become unwarrantedly bold, and to overstep one&rsquo;s rights. The pride of one&#39;s own ability to see clearly, to reason correctly, or to follow his heart&#39;s leading is rebuked by Solomon in these words, <i>&quot;a man who trust in his own heart is a fool.&quot;</i> Could it be Rob, that the reason God gave us His written word, is so that we would not trust our own &quot;searing insight&quot; and make a fool out of ourselves?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span">God&#39;s written word is the scales on which all our own &quot;searing insights&quot; must be measured. Rob&#39;s searing insight is just that, <strong>it is his</strong>, and therefore must be thrown out with the garbage. It is true that through study, prayer, and meditation on God&#39;s word, that we can move to deeper levels of understanding that exceed that of some others, but it will never, and I will repeat, never, contradict God&#39;s own revelation of Himself in His written word. Rob Bell&#39;s words, along with those of the newly formed cult of the Emerging church, which Rob is part of despite his claim to the contrary, are wholly contradictory to God&#39;s revelation, and for that reason, it is Rob who is on trial here, and not hell or God, and he is found to be wanting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span">Rob&#39;s message is not only NOT &quot;decidedly hopeful,&quot; as he promotes, but it removes all hope, and leads his followers to a hell he claims does not exist. He bases this on his own brilliance, which the Bible says is darkness, <i>&quot;<span style="color:#001320">Take heed therefore that the light which is in thee be not darkness</span>&quot; </i>Luke 11:35.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span">The Bible is either God&#39;s word, and therefore the truth, or it is not the truth. If it is not the truth as written, then throw it out, but throw out Rob Bell also, because he claims he is a follower of God. If Jesus was not God as He said, and was lying, then He was the Devil, because He said He was The Way, The Truth, and The Life, and that He should be followed to get to Heaven; and he said He could forgive sins, and only God can do that. If the Bible cannot be trusted, and Jesus cannot be trusted, where does that leave Rob Bell? Is he now made to be the way, the truth, and the life?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span">I think you can see where this is going. We have to have some means to know &quot;truth.&quot; Jesus lived among us, His life was documented, and He proved to all posterity, by all of His miracles and His ultimate resurrection from the dead, that He is, in fact, Who He said He was, God, the Savior of mankind, from an eternal hell, by believing in Him and His word, and repenting from the works of sin through the deceitfulness of our own hearts, to follow after others who proclaim to have truth, and &quot;searing insight.&quot; If we cannot trust the documented facts of the life of Jesus, why should we trust Rob Bell, who has only a few books, harvested from a few contrary thoughts of a fertile imagination? The bottom line is, that if we cannot believe the Bible as written, then there is no such thing as truth, and we are all free to live and think as we wish, and the law of the jungle rules; every man for himself, might is right, and the best man wins, <strong>NOT LOVE</strong>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Link to Rob&#39;s video &nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://vimeo.com/20272585">http://vimeo.com/20272585</a></p>
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		<title>The Perils of &#8216;Wannabe Cool&#8217; Christianity</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Being part of a &#34;cool&#34; church is, well, cool. For thirty something years I have watched the organized church grow in coolness till, like a gigantic pimple, it has grown to an ugly infected mass of putrid worldliness. Quite honestly, the organized church is beginning to stink with its attempt to cover-up any trace of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="plus-one-wrap"><g:plusone href="http://www.indywatchman.com/apostacy/the-perils-of-wannabe-cool-christianity/"></g:plusone></div><p><a href="http://www.indywatchman.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Cool.jpg"><img alt="" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-870" height="225" src="http://www.indywatchman.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Cool-300x225.jpg" title="Cool" width="300" /></a>Being part of a &quot;cool&quot; church is, well, cool. For thirty something years I have watched the organized church grow in coolness till, like a gigantic pimple, it has grown to an ugly infected mass of putrid worldliness. Quite honestly, the organized church is beginning to stink with its attempt to cover-up any trace of the God of the Bible with its cheap perfume of lust and vanity, and its very obvious now. For anyone looking for cheap thrills, the carnival of carnality, known as the institutional church, has a show to please anyone who might venture into the red light district looking for a quicky. Our love for marketing brings us an unending flow of the latest innovations in how to sell &quot;God&quot; to a Pagan world. We can hardly wait to see this years line-up of programs to prevent us from becoming bored with just plain holiness. But, is this Christianity? No, this is not Christianity, it is the very thing Jesus warned us about, that would delude the world and church in the last days, and prove to be a mass blinding of all who refuse to obey the real God&#39;s written word and to separate itself from this rebellious, idolatrous, Babylonian harlot. I have not made these things up, they are in the Bible, if we choose to read and believe them.</p>
<p>	This mess of the organized church is apparent to the world. It seems only the &quot;wannabe cool&quot; Christians are blinded. The organized church has become a mockery to those watching from the outside, but no one inside the walls of the house seems to notice or even care. </p>
<p>	Well, anyway, the WSJ has noticed, and written the following article concerning the exodus of young people away from the circus act of organized religion. My own conclusion of the matter is that the small scale prostitution of the organized church is no competition for the talent of the big city. Why shop at the five-and-dime when you can have THE WHOLE WORLD.&nbsp; </p>
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<h1>The Perils of &#39;Wannabe Cool&#39; Christianity</h1>
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<h3>By <a href="http://online.wsj.com/search/term.html?KEYWORDS=BRETT+MCCRACKEN&amp;bylinesearch=true" target="_blank">BRETT MCCRACKEN</a></h3>
<p><em>(Please see Corrections &amp; Amplifications <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704111704575355311122648100.html?mod=wsj_share_facebook#U301144904733UBH" target="_blank">item</a> below.)</em></p>
<p>&#39;How can we stop the oil gusher?&quot; may have been the question of the summer for most Americans. Yet for many evangelical pastors and leaders, the leaking well is nothing compared to the threat posed by an ongoing gusher of a different sort: Young people pouring out of their churches, never to return.</p>
<p>As a 27-year-old evangelical myself, I understand the concern. My peers, many of whom grew up in the church, are losing interest in the Christian establishment.</p>
<p>Recent statistics have shown an increasing exodus of young people from churches, especially after they leave home and live on their own. In a 2007 study, Lifeway Research determined that 70% of young Protestant adults between 18-22 stop attending church regularly.</p>
<p>Statistics like these have created something of a mania in recent years, as baby-boomer evangelical leaders frantically assess what they have done wrong (why didn&#39;t megachurches work to attract youth in the long term?) and scramble to figure out a plan to keep young members engaged in the life of the church. <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704111704575355311122648100.html?mod=wsj_share_facebook" target="_blank">(Read the rest of article here)</a></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.organicchurchlife.com/Organic-Leadership The World System&#8217;s Methodology The Gentile system (that Jesus said we must NOT use in the Church) is filled with authority pyramid structures, programs, gimmicks, marketing, psychology, advertising, titles, schedules, meetings, etc. Jesus didn&#8217;t do any of that. HE is the Church and our &#8220;model&#8221;!! That stuff is clearly not Him! :&#160;) &#8220;As many [...]]]></description>
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<p>The Gentile system (that Jesus said we must NOT use in the Church) is filled with authority pyramid structures, programs, gimmicks, marketing, psychology, advertising, titles, schedules, meetings, etc. Jesus didn&rsquo;t do any of that. HE is the Church and our &ldquo;model&rdquo;!! That stuff is<em> clearly </em>not Him! :&nbsp;)</p>
<p>&ldquo;As many as are led by the Spirit are walking in Sonship.&rdquo; &ldquo;And everyone born of the Spirit is&hellip;like the Wind!&rdquo; :&nbsp;)</p>
<p>Specifically, regarding &ldquo;leadership,&rdquo; He was very, very clear about it: <span>&ldquo;You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their high officials exercise authority over them.</span><strong> NOT SO WITH YOU!</strong><span>&rdquo; </span></p>
<p>Yes, the fallen &ldquo;work&rdquo; world can use those third dimensional tools (being &ldquo;on time,&rdquo; meetings, committees, motivational tools, fund-raising tools, leadership pyramid structures, budgets, and the like) to exist, live long and prosper. Oh, if<em> they </em>want to do that, that&rsquo;s fine! They wouldn&rsquo;t survive any other way. Any &ldquo;organization&rdquo; that must maintain its existence and cohesiveness by such externals is only proving its lack of involvement by God. Those &ldquo;tools&rdquo; are fine for the heathen and their systems. (There is an allegorical e-mail about &ldquo;dimensions&rdquo; that you may want to refer to, also.) God acknowledged in Genesis 11 that certain external, worldly principles are, in fact, useful if you want to build a Babylonian tower, and make a name for yourself. But those are not the tools for a Kingdom that is &ldquo;not of this world.&rdquo; Wrong tools. And it doesn&rsquo;t take a genius to read Genesis 11 and see how God feels about building that way. Bricks instead of stones is just man&rsquo;s way, isn&rsquo;t it?</p>
<h2>The Bad Translations</h2>
<p>Frequently, we get confused about &ldquo;leadership&rdquo; and other topics when we think of the English translations of the Bible as being &ldquo;THE BIBLE.&rdquo; I&rsquo;m sure you know that the Bible was written in Koine Greek, not English. And, you may find this hard to believe, but folks who live in the &ldquo;system&rdquo; cannot translate words that they don&rsquo;t understand. The pillar and foundation of Truth is the Ekklesia, the Church. And if a person has never experienced the Life of the Church described in the Bible, of daily, sacrificial, devoted living as &ldquo;One Body&rdquo;&mdash;&ldquo;bearing one another&rsquo;s burdens,&rdquo; &ldquo;confessing sins one to another,&rdquo; &ldquo;from the least to the greatest&rdquo;&mdash;how can they describe true Life in a Bible translation? When men translate into their native language, they<em> very </em>frequently translate it in a way that reflects their<em> experience, </em>not the truest translation of the Greek that the Bible was written in.</p>
<p>For example, the word &ldquo;deacon&rdquo; means &ldquo;servant.&rdquo; That&rsquo;s it! To those to whom the word was written, it was not a title of a congregation&rsquo;s third-tier religious leader on the organizational chart! It wasn&rsquo;t a committee that had regular meetings to decide about lawn maintenance and parking lot stripes and fund raising banquets. To the ear of the Greek, it was simply a servant with specific chores to do. It was NOT a religious word or a title for a religious office. (The word &ldquo;office&rdquo; referred to could be defined as being the &ldquo;official&rdquo; automatic<em> anything </em>amongst God&rsquo;s People, whether in a house or an institution.) If we&rsquo;ve made it a religious word, we have abused the Scriptures and mis-represented and mis-applied the idea to Christianity. By contrast, in Titus 1 and 1 Timothy 3 the word &ldquo;deacon&rdquo; in English translations does not even exist in our world<em> EXCEPT as a religious role and office. </em>The word meant nothing of the kind to those ears that heard it when it was written! It was a common word. No religious title or connotation whatsoever! What a difference! To understand it properly, we&rsquo;d have to be the FAMILY that they were, with &ldquo;a hundred mothers, brothers, sisters, lands, possessions, and persecutions!&rdquo;<em> then </em>we&rsquo;d know what it meant.</p>
<p>There are<em> many </em>words like this that are mis-translated, and therefore<em> seem </em>to encourage the system to continue as it is. The word &ldquo;pastor&rdquo; is very poorly translated, and could never have been translated as &ldquo;pastor&rdquo; if there were not an ulterior motive for doing so. It is not an honest translation of the Greek word, and is entirely misleading. You can&rsquo;t build an organization around a word and an idea that does not exist in the Scriptures. &ldquo;I know! Let&rsquo;s just add the word to the English Bible and then everyone will think it&rsquo;s okay to have one of those as a local boss!&rdquo; Not good!</p>
<p><em>Of course, </em>there are Gifts and roles in the Body of Christ (Eph. 4; Rom. 12; 1Cor. 12; 1Tim. 3; Tit. 1). That&rsquo;s<em> very </em>different, though, from what happens in the normal church-world thang. An &ldquo;official this or that&rdquo; is NOT God&rsquo;s Way. And YES, it<em> matters!</em></p>
<p>Here is the REAL issue:</p>
<h2>The Difference Between Samuel and Saul!!!</h2>
<p>That is really what we are discussing, when you get right down to it.</p>
<p>We&rsquo;ve discussed this before, but it is essential to understand&mdash;if we&rsquo;re ever going to see the Church live in her full Glory, and for &ldquo;the Bride to make herself ready&rdquo; for the Return of the Groom.</p>
<p>Samuel was an<em><strong> organic </strong></em>&ldquo;king.&rdquo; He had no title; he had no official role. People needed him, but he was not the official anything!</p>
<p>Saul, on the other hand, was an assigned or elected &ldquo;king&rdquo;&mdash;which GOD said was an abomination! Saul was the official, titled guy-in-charge. Bad News!</p>
<p>Samuel was a man of God who people desired to be involved with&mdash;based<em> solely </em>on his current walk with God. It wasn&rsquo;t an office that Samuel &ldquo;held.&rdquo; Others could be raised up and used by God similarly, and Samuel could easily have been &ldquo;sat down.&rdquo; It was a day-to-day walk-with-God issue, not some official anything! GOD WILL ONLY HAVE IT THAT WAY.</p>
<p>When God&rsquo;s people built the world&rsquo;s way, &ldquo;as the other nations,&rdquo; God&rsquo;s response was &ldquo;It is ME they are rejecting.&rdquo; That is a REALLY big deal! So, Gifts, tasks, whatever&hellip;sure! But<em> bosses </em>who call the shots? Wrong-ola. With a title and an office and an official paycheck, such a person could easily be walking far from God, but their role and title continue. NO WAY! Roles and gifts are only to be ORGANIC, not hierarchical.</p>
<p>When the thought of setting up an organizational chart system of assigned leaders was under discussion, Jesus said, &ldquo;Not so with you!&rdquo;</p>
<p>And titles? Jesus<em><strong> commanded </strong></em>us to<strong> &ldquo;Call no man&hellip;</strong>Pastor _____, Rabbi _____, Father _____, Brother _____, Elder _____, etc.&rdquo; Titles are WRONG. Period. Why? First of all, because Jesus forbids them. Is He<em> really </em>Head? Is He Lord? &ldquo;If you<em> really </em>love Me, you&rsquo;ll obey what I say.&rdquo; He said, &ldquo;Don&rsquo;t do it!&rdquo; Second of all, Jesus knew that titles and offices would solidify a Saul kingdom, rather than the Samuel kingdom that He had authored. The Samuel kingdom is organic leadership&mdash;brothers amongst brothers&mdash;(Mat. 23:8-14), as in a family, rather than an organization! Samuel &ldquo;leadership&rdquo; is the only Kingdom, the only kind of Church where JESUS truly can remain King, rather than sharing His Glory and His Headship with mere men! Asking one of several Samuels for help with something they See more clearly than you can currently see (whether maturity limitations on your part, or Gift limitations on your part)&mdash;that&rsquo;s healthy. Having someone that is &ldquo;in charge&rdquo; in some official sense&mdash;is deadly. That is Jesus&rsquo; Role, alone.</p>
<p>Did you know that NEVER in the New Testament and the sixty years of Scripture contained therein&#8230; is anyone called &quot;Pastor __&quot; or Reverend or Father or any such title? WOW did Paul miss his chances to do so! There is no chance whatsoever that, by today&#39;s standard, <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=col%204:7-14&amp;version=NKJV" target="_blank">Col.4:7-14</a> wouldn&#39;t be filled to the brim with titles! And yet GOD doesn&#39;t permit it, so Paul and the Bible don&#39;t do it. Consider <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%2016:3-16&amp;version=NKJV" target="_blank">Romans 16:3-16</a> honestly. Religious humans today would have written this with twenty-seven titles, in this one section alone! And yet God&#39;s heart is that there be no titles on mere humans. None. Luke, the scientist, writing a faithful Spirit-inspired thorough history of the first thirty years of the Church of Jesus Christ, reported ZERO titles. Oh, except for <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%209:17,%20Acts%2022:13&amp;version=NIV" target="_blank">twice</a> that a Jew was referred to as a Jewish &quot;brother&quot;. Twice in the entire Bible! But only to a Jew. Never once was a Christian referred to by any title! Wow. Is that weird, or what?! Maybe Jesus meant it &#8211; when He forbid titles.</p>
<p>Add to this obvious Biblical point, that never once in the Bible is there a &quot;pastor&quot; running any church or the main speaker or boss of any congregation. Paul, Peter, James, John &#8212; none of their letters to churches ever addressed or mentioned any &quot;pastor bob&quot; or &quot;father o&#39;conner&quot; or &quot;reverend jones&quot;. There was NO SUCH SYSTEM in the days when men knew Jesus and walked in His Spirit, or the letters to Churches in Galatia or Ephesus or Philippi or Bithynia or Pontus would have been addressed to &quot;pastor jones&quot; &#8212; or at least refer to such a thing as &quot;your pastor&quot;. But shock of shocks &#8212; IT IS NOT IN THE BIBLE! Men made it up. Martin Luther wanted catholic priests to be able to get married and become protestant priests or preachers or ministers or pastors. But in the Bible THERE WAS NO SUCH THING as a man &quot;running a congregation&quot; with a &quot;title&quot; and the &quot;official decision maker and official teacher&quot; or &quot;automatic bible teacher&quot; or &quot;automatic meeting leader&quot; or &quot;meeting planner&quot; or worship leader&quot;. It is totally a manufactured idea that is nowhere in the Scriptures. The men who defend such practices have to resort to insulting and scare tactics and &quot;warnings&quot; and very illogical arguments to defend positions that clearly did not exist in the churches of the Bible. Gifts, apostolic co-workers such as Timothy, Epaphus, Titus, Aristarchus, and others, certainly are present and essential in the Body of Christ. Shepherds and &quot;Olders&quot; are surely a Biblical possibility, in plural, in a local assembly. But a &quot;pastor&quot; with a &quot;title&quot; as boss and choreographer and automatic religious talker and centerpiece of the Body of Christ in a local church &#8212; no way. The Bible never shows any such thing to be possible or ever true. &quot;When you come together EVERYONE brings a word of instruction, a song, a prophetic thought&#8230; and when Revelation come to the second, let the first one SIT DOWN.&quot; Glory to God in the Kingdom of Priests, the Body of Christ, where the Spirit gives His Gifts to ALL in whom He lives. Let them be FREE 24 hours a day, in every setting and situation, at every given moment, to be used by God, or Jesus the Head is being usurped by mere men. Jesus is ALIVE and IN His People &#8212; let&#39;s let the Head be the Head! Don&#39;t, out of fear or ambition, push Jesus aside with man-made gimmicks and structure. GOD said &quot;They are rejecting ME&quot; when a &quot;system&quot; was set up to create a &quot;king of the church&quot; environment. &quot;It is the same now.&quot;</p>
<p>What in the WORLD are men thinking &#8212; to do what God forbids, and the Bible demonstrates did not happen? In most of today&#39;s religious world, Jesus is usurped as LIVING Head of His own church by &quot;Father __&quot; and &quot;Pastor __&quot; who totally dominate the religious world and virtually every congregation. Can we really call &quot;Christian&quot; what does not obey Jesus? &quot;If you love Me, you will obey Me.&quot; Maybe it&#39;s time to turn a lot of things around that have been long since ignored, forgotten, or over-ruled by the <a href="http://books.jesuslifetogether.com/Foundations-Series/Sword/The-Traditions-of-Men" target="_blank">traditions of men</a>, the praise of men, and the control of men? In reality, the thing humans do, often actually dethrones Jesus&#8230; and that is yucky.</p>
<p>&quot;I must decrease, that He may increase.&quot; This is going to be REALLY COOL when we actually DO this His Way, and see the Fruit of it! <img src='http://www.indywatchman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>To appeal in a difficult situation to some who are<em> obviously </em>&ldquo;over you in the Lord&rdquo; (Heb. 13:7ff), or to be corrected by such, or anyone&mdash;that is a good thing. It is not &ldquo;spiritual&rdquo; to say, &ldquo;I don&rsquo;t need anyone but Jesus.&rdquo; GOD said that if you are really &ldquo;baptized into the Spirit,&rdquo; then you<em> must </em>be totally connected to His People. You must have a sense and a way of life that says to others, &ldquo;I HAVE NEED OF YOU!&rdquo; Independence (the &ldquo;I only need Jesus&rdquo; and &ldquo;I&rsquo;ll make my own decisions&mdash;me and Jesus are enough&rdquo; version of &ldquo;independence&rdquo;) is not even close to being &ldquo;spiritual.&rdquo; It is very weak and disobedient and unproductive. If we don&rsquo;t &ldquo;discern the Body,&rdquo; we are in big trouble with God.</p>
<p>To work together in mutual submission with other Gifts and those who will give an account for your soul (the Samuels God puts around us)&mdash;that&rsquo;s a good thing. But, in organic Life, those people can change from day to day and situation to situation. You won&rsquo;t be &ldquo;assigned&rdquo; to some certain &ldquo;cell&rdquo; or &ldquo;leader&rdquo; or any such thing. There won&rsquo;t be any limitations other than seeking Jesus and His Counsel on the Highest possible plane, on one&rsquo;s knees and in His People. God can use different ones as their various Gifts and levels of maturity are useful to Him at any given time. &ldquo;When revelation comes to the second, let the first one sit down!&rdquo;</p>
<p>In an unBiblical structure (which is offensive to God, as He said to Samuel), then someone is &ldquo;the official leader&rdquo; of my cell group or my congregation or parish, or the whole papal universe. This &ldquo;vicar&rdquo; role (&ldquo;substitute&rdquo; for Christ), whether in a cell group, &ldquo;house church,&rdquo; a religious facility congregation, or a galaxy&hellip;is destructive, disobedient, unfruitful, and evil. If JESUS is still Head of HIS Church, then Samuel (organic) leadership will permeate the Life of the Body of Christ in a hundred forms, emanating from whomever is walking closely with Jesus and is needed in that time and place (some more or less visibly), with no titles or expectations or controlling. In a Samuel environment where JESUS is permitted to be Head, there is no org chart and ironclad pecking order or assigned bosses or speakers or &ldquo;worship leaders&rdquo; for <a href="http://books.jesuslifetogether.com/Meetings-in-His-Kingdom" target="_blank" title="Meetings in His Kingdom"> meetings</a> or &ldquo;cell&rdquo; meetings or programs. GIFTS and maturity<em> (Jesus currently expressing Himself) </em>will &ldquo;show the way&rdquo; as to how we&rsquo;ll go. There surely will be authority, but it will be the authority of Anointing and Life, not of expectation or title or office or knowledge or personality or reputation. Samuel, not Saul. Internal &ldquo;drawing&rdquo; of Life towards the voice and thoughts of Jesus flourishing in His People day by day, situation by situation is how He works through the &ldquo;treasure in earthen vessels&rdquo;&mdash;not some counseling appointment or sermon by a hireling or titled official holy man of the congregation. The sheep KNOW the Shepherd&rsquo;s Voice.</p>
<p>If Jesus is truly Head in any time the Saints are together, whether at home after dinner, or when &ldquo;the whole church is together&rdquo; (1Cor. 14), <em>ANYTHING</em> can happen. Everyone has &ldquo;considered how to spur one another on to love and good works&rdquo; (if they are in Touch and walking with their Messiah), and they are watching and listening and willing (not trying to be seen or heard&mdash;just willing). Everyone has come &ldquo;with a word of instruction, or a song&hellip;&rdquo; If Jesus is Head, in reality (rather than a figurehead, as A.W. Tozer often was heard to say) there are no expectations of some particular person or persons that everything must revolve around. There are no &ldquo;automatic speakers&rdquo; or<em> anything </em>that would be even a tiny bit difficult to &ldquo;pre-empt&rdquo; by the HEAD, Jesus! &ldquo;When Revelation comes to the second person, let the first person, who is teaching SIT DOWN!&rdquo; Maybe there&rsquo;ll be someone with revelation, maybe there won&rsquo;t be. Perhaps a few particular people are typically more filled with the Spirit than others (Acts 6, etc.), or are more visible due to their particular gifts than others. That&rsquo;s<em> fine. </em>But to not build in such a way as to make it<em> possible </em>and even <em>easy</em> for the Spirit of Christ Jesus to speak through whomever He desires, WHENEVER He wishes&mdash;this is USURPING JESUS&rsquo; HEADSHIP by bad building practices. This would be Saul, rather than Samuel.</p>
<p>And beware of the &ldquo;invisible infrastructure&rdquo; that can sneak up on us when we are making a transition from religious tradition and shallow external form&mdash;to Reality. The &ldquo;invisible pastor&rdquo; still orchestrates and manhandles and controls. He does this, perhaps out of fear that things won&rsquo;t go well without him. Or he may do this because others are not being responsible Priests, and he feels like he&rsquo;s got to bail everyone out. He may do this because he is determined that things not be an &ldquo;embarrassment&rdquo; to Jesus. He may do this purely out of habit, or because he doesn&rsquo;t know any better. He may do this because he desires attention or financial security, or is ambitious. Perhaps he didn&rsquo;t get to be the pastor in his old environment, but now that he is liberated and in a &ldquo;house church&rdquo; everyone can plainly see how spiritual and right he is. The &ldquo;invisible pastor&rdquo; in the &ldquo;invisible infrastructure&rdquo; has lots of reasons for trying to control things&mdash;but it&rsquo;s not because he is being sought out as the most anointed person that anyone knows (like Samuel was). He simply is wearing his nametag with his title of &ldquo;pastor&rdquo;<em> inside </em>his jacket now, instead of<em> outside </em>where it could be seen. He is<em> pretending </em>to not be the pastor, but like the puppeteer, he is pulling the strings even still&mdash;while hidden backstage to make it seem like the puppets are acting on their own. This is Saul in disguise&mdash;not Samuel!</p>
<p>Samuel is needed and desired and useful beyond words to God&rsquo;s People. Don&rsquo;t think he is not needed and that Christianity is supposed to be a generic committee vote environment! Check out your Bible, and you&rsquo;ll see this from Genesis to Revelation. &ldquo;Generic Christianity&rdquo; is a curse that God sends on people that are proud and disobedient! (Isa. 1, 3, 5). But the many Samuels (day to day anointing on whomever is available to Jesus in the purest way) do not need or desire to make the decisions or orchestrate anything &ldquo;backstage.&rdquo; Samuel is available when needed, but desires no involvement in anything for himself. He is drawn in because of his special Gifts, essential to God&rsquo;s People&rsquo;s health and prosperity. Saul, on the other hand, was born out of people&rsquo;s laziness and fear and apathy and unwillingness to stretch toward God and trust Him.</p>
<p>Samuel &ldquo;equips the saints for works of service,&rdquo; while Saul ensures a place for himself as focal point (by any number of interesting ploys). Samuel is &ldquo;like the wind&rdquo;&mdash;drawing attention to JESUS; while Saul draws the attention to himself&mdash;loving to be titled or called in respectful ways, and loving to hear himself speak.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[We are surrounded by deception, misrepresentations, trickery, stagecraft, illusions, sleights of hand, delusions, perceptions, opinions, marketing, advertising, and much wishful thinking, but not truth. It matters not where you go in the world, truth is hard to find. Jer 17:9 &#8220;The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it?&#8221; Eccl [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="plus-one-wrap"><g:plusone href="http://www.indywatchman.com/uncategorized/where-do-we-find-truth-in-the-world/"></g:plusone></div><p><a href="http://www.indywatchman.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Marketing-Jesus.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-732" title="Marketing Jesus" src="http://www.indywatchman.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Marketing-Jesus-201x300.jpg" alt="" width="201" height="300" /></a>We are surrounded by deception, misrepresentations, trickery, stagecraft, illusions, sleights of hand, delusions, perceptions, opinions, marketing, advertising, and much wishful thinking, but not truth. It matters not where you go in the world, truth is hard to find.</p>
<p>Jer 17:9 <em>&#8220;The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it?&#8221;</em><em> </em></p>
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<p>Eccl 9:3<em> &#8221; &#8230;The hearts of men, moreover, are full of evil and there is madness in their hearts while they live, and afterward they join the dead.</em><em>&#8220;</em></p>
<p>Ps 10:2-4 <em>&#8220;In his arrogance the wicked man hunts down the weak, who are caught in the schemes he devises.  He boasts of the cravings of his heart; he blesses the greedy and reviles the LORD.  In his pride the wicked does not seek him; in all his thoughts there is no room for God.</em><em>&#8220;</em></p>
<p>Matt 15:19 <em>&#8220;For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander</em><em>&#8221;<br />
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<p>Rom 1:24 <strong><em>&#8220;Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts&#8230;</em></strong><strong><em>&#8220;</em></strong></p>
<p>Our hearts are wicked and as Jeremiah said, deceitful above all things. It is, according to Jeremiah, beyond cure!</p>
<p>Yet, God, <em>&#8220;&#8230;desirest truth in the inward parts.</em><em>&#8221; </em>Ps 51:6.</p>
<p>The fact of our blindness to truth is established easily. Every attitude of the heart is geared to manipulate, defraud, cheat, steal, or influence for our own gain. The motivating force of our life is our human nature of lust and pride. 1Jn 2:16 <em>&#8220;For everything in the world‑‑the cravings of sinful man, the lust of his eyes and the boasting of what he has and does‑‑comes not from the Father but from the world.</em><em>&#8220;</em> We are creatures of this world, and we are governed by the inherited nature of Adam, that is the fact. A child, almost instantly, discovers how to get its way. This blindness does not stop with the secular world, but is manifested in its most brilliant form in the religious world.  Left unrestrained by penalties and punishment,  men will commit the most heinous crimes against society or God.</p>
<p>It is onto this stage that Jesus came, as the Son of God. Into this depraved world, Truth has come. Jesus called himself the Truth &#8211; <em>&#8220;I am&#8230;the truth</em><em>&#8220;</em>; <em>&#8220;To this end have I come into the world, that I should bear witness onto the truth.</em><em>&#8221; </em>The Spirit is called the Spirit of Truth, and God is called the God of Truth. The Godhead is characterized by this one blunt feature &#8211; truth!</p>
<p>Two types of truth exist in the world today. There is the prevalent truth that dominates, and that  we see in operation all around us, every day, and at all times. This truth is the truth <strong>of the world</strong>, which has to be kept in check by rules of morals and ethics. Then there is true truth. True truth is hidden and is very rare. It is this truth that God requires in the inward parts. But, where do we find something so rare?</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">The Truth of This World is Evil, and Satanic</p>
<p>Rules and ethics are not of the truth, but are mechanisms to keep men in check, to induce civility, but they cannot make men holy. God&#8217;s rules instruct us, and point to Jesus.  Satan is a liar and the rules he institutes are cover-ups, designed to hide the evilness of man&#8217;s heart so he appears just, honest, humble, forgiving, contrite, and faithful. <em>&#8220;The god of this age,</em><em>&#8221; </em>says Paul, <em>&#8220;has blinded the eyes of the unbelieving.</em><em>&#8221; </em>Man is a blind, deceived creature, but God still desires <em>&#8220;truth in the inward part.</em><em>&#8220;</em></p>
<p>Systems of religion, including Christianity, that operate on these rules, and put on programs, rituals, and outward show, are false, they are not true, they are lies. The religions of this world are built on the world&#8217;s truth, and for institutional Christianity, that means unbelief. The goodness caused or the evil prevented, by obeying rules, does not qualify as the goodness required by God.</p>
<p>The distinguishing characteristic and motivation behind the truth of this world, that is woven deep into the fabric of organized religion, is a <strong>natural</strong> personal interest and consideration, viewing things in the light of our own advantage or disadvantage. A life based on this truth is not faith, this is unbelief and rebellion against God&#8217;s promises and provision. This is the position that Israel occupied, and they were found to be unbelievers, and it was that very thing that blinded them. They had faith in a truth that was based on natural personal interest, and built a religious system on that foundation. They allowed their flesh to dictate how they worshiped and how they defined faith. When their actions are examined carefully it is found that they were building on ground that was cursed by God.</p>
<p>There is no light in all the world, it is a blind thing; all of nature is blind. To the degree that we govern and build our lives by the motivation of this world is the degree of our own blindness. 1Cor 2:14 <em>&#8220;The natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God&#8230;he cannot know them, because they are spiritually discerned.</em><em>&#8220;</em></p>
<p>Mark 10:42,43<em> </em><em>&#8220;But Jesus having called them to him, says to them, Ye know that those who are esteemed to rule over the nations exercise lordship over them; and their great men exercise authority over them; <strong>but it is not so among you</strong>.</em><em>&#8220;</em></p>
<p>Faith, based on true truth, has absolutely nothing to do with organized religion. Any use of the world&#8217;s ways is unbelief, and not faith. Marketing, management, manipulation, are all the ways of the men of this world to gain an advantage over others. <strong>Exaggerations</strong> and <strong>false statements </strong>are the life of marketing and advertising. <strong>Perceived value </strong>is a con, it is not real value, it is a lie. <strong>Branding</strong> is a form of mind control. <strong>Loss-leaders</strong> are tricks to sell more expensive items. <strong>Creative Strategy </strong>is the use of tone, and message to separate a customer from his money. <strong>Copywriters</strong> and <strong>art directors </strong>are hired to create desire and wants. <strong>Headline</strong>; a concise statement to lure you into an advertisement. <strong>Eye tracking</strong>, a study of how your eyes look at advertisements. <strong>Holding power</strong>, the ability to prevent viewers from switching channels. <strong>Persuasion Process</strong>; the process of twisting an audience to purchase through emotion or reason. <strong>Positioning</strong>; how a consumer perceives a product. <strong>Psychographics</strong>, a study to determine why people buy, and to get the advantage over the consumer. <strong>Subliminal Perception</strong>, to unconsciously tap a customers mind to influence them to buy. These, and many more, are all the methods of this world to manipulate people for profit or power. Christian leaders are deceived and think they can use these and other tricks to build God&#8217;s Kingdom on earth. These things mentioned here are but a drop in the bucket of the many deceptions being used on regular basis in the Church. <em>&#8220;I hate,</em><em>&#8221; </em>said David, <em>&#8220;<strong>every</strong> false way.</em><em>&#8220;</em> We cannot be a lover of truth and hire a marketing professional to set a strategy to build God&#8217;s Church. This is the method being used by nearly every organized Church, <strong><em>&#8220;&#8230;But it is not so among you.</em></strong><strong><em>&#8220;</em></strong> 2Cor 4:2 <em>&#8220;Instead, we have refused to use secret and shameful ways. We don&#8217;t use tricks, and we don&#8217;t distort God&#8217;s word. As God watches, we clearly reveal the truth to everyone. This is our </em>[letter of] <em>recommendation.</em><em>&#8220;</em></p>
<p>But, this is not the end of the story. It is not just business owners, or churches, or ad agencies, or marketing companies, that use evil methods to gain wealth and power, and to make merchandise the men&#8217;s souls, it is you and I. It is only through the discovery of true truth that a beginning is made to live a life of faith in God, motivated by the love of truth to please Him. The make-up you wear, the cloths that send a certain message, the cologne or perfume, the inflection in your voice, the car you drive, the way you walk, the way you smile, the words you use to write your resume, and the list goes on, and on, and on. There is hardly a thing we do that is not consciously or unconsciously geared to gain something for ourselves, or to get the advantage. Our whole life is one with evil. Our lives are lies, a fantasy, a semblance of truth, but it is a lie.  Our hearts have been spoiled and become evil. And, it goes all the way to the top. When you voted for the lesser of two evils last election, you got it right, they are both evil. Our world is doomed, because evil reigns.</p>
<p>One book on marketing states that &#8220;everything is marketing.&#8221; He is correct. Nearly everything we do is designed to register some sort of effect on another person or persons, and those who have established themselves as the &#8220;leaders&#8221; use every means available to manage and secure for themselves a bounty of men and women. I believe nearly all of them do it out of ignorance, but nonetheless, they do it.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Faith</p>
<p>We started off asking, where do we find faith in the world, and it is similar to the question that Jesus asked, <em>&#8220;will I find faith on the earth when I return.&#8221; </em><strong>Obviously faith is a rare thing.</strong><em><br />
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<p>Faith in God seems over simplistic in this age of easy believism. But, how does real faith work? We must have, <em>&#8220;truth in the inward parts.</em><em>&#8220;</em> To have truth in the inward parts means that we have to trust God, that He is able, to do what He said He would do, and <strong>that</strong> is saving faith.</p>
<p>Christians refuse to separate themselves from the world, but that is a big part of the answer. To separate ourselves means to not participate in the schemes of marketing manipulation, and worldly management practices.  Jesus knew the extent to which men would become involved in the processes of this world. He knew that those processes would be used in building the church. He knew that at the end of the age the church would have become totally absorbed in the world, and that there would be no difference from the world, except the vocabulary. He knew that men would have completely bought into <em>&#8220;the Lie.&#8221;</em> That &#8220;lie&#8221; is the fact that men believe that they can build God&#8217;s Kingdom using the processes of this world, and only using the word &#8220;faith&#8221; as a tag line at the bottom of some statement, creed, or confession. Faith is no less than trusting God, just like Moses, Joshua, the Prophets, the Apostles, and some few others who have discovered the &#8220;Truth.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Tony Jones Dis-likes Labels</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tony Jones doesn’t like labels. He says he would rather think of his Christianity as “emergence” and not “Emergent.” There is only one Christianity and it ain’t emergence or Emergent, neither is it Pentecostal, Baptist, Lutheran, or any other sect. Following Christ is to be a Christian, and for the most part they all have [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="plus-one-wrap"><g:plusone href="http://www.indywatchman.com/uncategorized/tony-jones-dis-likes-labels/"></g:plusone></div><p><a href="http://www.indywatchman.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/strychnine1.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-684" title="strychnine1" src="http://www.indywatchman.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/strychnine1-300x180.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="180" /></a>Tony Jones doesn’t like labels. He says he would rather think of his Christianity as “emergence” and not “Emergent.”</p>
<p>There is only one Christianity and it ain’t emergence or Emergent, neither is it Pentecostal, Baptist, Lutheran, or any other sect. Following Christ is to be a Christian, and for the most part they all have it wrong, but their “labels” at least lets us know what to expect from them. With out labels it is very hard to nail anything down, everything becomes silly putty in their hands. They can believe one thing one day and the opposite the next day, or nothing at all, or both, it is the freedom of an anarchist, both lawless and rebellious.<br />
Tony doesn’t like labels because he says,<br />
<blockquote><a href="https://www.google.com/reader/view/?tab=my#stream/feed%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Ffeeds.feedburner.com%2Ftonyj%2FIWxO">“they seem to us <em>(emergence types)</em> convenient ways of boxing someone in. . . .” </a></p></blockquote>
<p>when he would much rather be a moving target. This statement is just smoke or camouflage. Liars, cheats, and scoundrels hate labels because they identify who and what they are. Sit at a poker table in Vegas and try and identify the pros. Those professionals hate labels too. They want to look like tourist; they look harmless and innocent, but they are wolves, there to separate you from your bankroll. Hang a label on these pros and the table will empty; at least the smart ones would leave. The first rule of poker is that you never play against someone better than you. But, most people think that the game is just a matter of luck anyway, much like religion. They never pay attention to the “tells” that identify or label a person as a shark or a false teacher, who are both classified as wolves.</p>
<p>Do you see how “labels” can be counter productive to vandals who want to separate you from your valuables? Labels identify people and things, and keep us safe in the world. Thieves, cheats, marketers, card sharks, and false teachers and preachers know this. Subterfuge, misrepresentation, deception, pretense, and dramatics are all the tools of those who fear exposure and labels. At the poker table the pro will likely advertise his stupidity and ineptitude by playing fast and loose, and present themselves as something they’re not. He&#8217;ll look like a sap to the vacationer who thinks he’ll be an easy touch. Then the truth comes, when it is too late, and the pro has that monster hand he was waiting for, and the real “sucker” is revealed. This is called “advertising” in the world of poker, and is used with great effect. Marketers advertise also and generally try and trick you into believing something about their product that isn’t true: cars, clothes, cologne, alcohol, you name it, they are nearly all deceptions, lies, and illusions. They allow you to think that there is value where none exist. Your identifying of these lies would permit you to stick a “label” on them and classify their tactics as dangerous and deceptive.</p>
<p>What that poker player is saying by his not saying anything and putting on a show, by his dress and by his actions, is that <em>“you need not worry about me, I am harmless, just relax and have some fun, and please don’t <strong>label</strong> me.”</em>  I believe Tony Jones is saying much the same thing by presenting labels as a bad thing. He says that labels box people in, and I say they protect people. He cannot live by his own philosophy. Does Tony label people? Isn’t Pentecostal a label? Do labels inform us and protect us? Would Tony take a bottle from his medicine cabinet without consulting the “label?” Would anyone? Did Jesus label people and things? Jesus said <em>“Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees…. How is it that ye do not understand that I spake not to you concerning bread…? Then understood they how that he bade [them] not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.”</em> Mt 16:6,11-12 Was Jesus putting these teachers in a box? Did He label them? You bet He did, and for our good, for our protection. He identified the threat and stuck a label on it, and expects us to heed the danger.</p>
<p>People who have nothing to hide do not fear labels.  Labels are markers and road signs and warnings, to direct the wayfaring man or woman to safety.</p>
<p>Beware of the smoke and slight of hand of the religious magicians, for they will cheat you out of much more than money, they will steal your very soul, and will leave you only this world in which to take refuge.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m curious, how many declarations, proclamations, manifestos, creeds, and statements of faith does it take to turn a ruthlessly vain and evil race of people into moral, dignified, and respectable human beings. The answer to that question is, there is not enough paper to print all the decrees necessary to save us? Let&#8217;s look for [...]]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;m curious, how many declarations, proclamations, manifestos, creeds, and statements of faith does it take to turn a ruthlessly vain and evil race of people into moral, dignified, and respectable human beings. The answer to that question is, there is not enough paper to print all the decrees necessary to save us?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s look for a moment at the Jews. Was it possible to sacrifice enough bulls and goats to satisfy God&#8217;s just requirement of righteousness and purity? The river of blood and the mountain of dead flesh over thousands of years was not adequate. All of their efforts were futile, and they were driven to despair. They wearied themselves with their work. It just was not the answer.</p>
<p><a href="http://manhattandeclaration.org/">The Manhattan Declaration</a> is just another effort of proud man to accomplish something that only God alone can do. But, man never tires of trying to produce something that will produce the results that God demands.</p>
<p>The gates of Hell are prevailing all over the world, in the face of so many beautifully written documents proclaiming that men will do what God obviously can not do Himself.</p>
<p>The organized church is a failure in the life changing business, but they just will not see it, because they are proud, and they are blind.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;When a man&#8217;s ways please the LORD, he maketh even his enemies to be at peace with him.&#8221;</em> Prov. 16:7</p>
<p><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-509" title="train wreck" src="http://www.indywatchman.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/train-wreck-232x300.png" alt="train wreck" width="232" height="300" />America and the world have failed, because they will not concede to Jesus, nor will they repent of all their efforts to build something that God said that He Himself would build, and that all of men&#8217;s efforts to do otherwise are to <em>&#8220;build in vain.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>With all the failure we see piling up so rapidly, would it be a fair assessment to conclude that our ways do not please the Lord? Yes! That is the Biblical assessment.</p>
<p>Would it be a stretch to say that we have no idea what we are doing? or even what &#8220;faith&#8221; is? We say we trust God then we set out to do things our own way. That is somewhat reminiscent of the Book of Judges where <em>&#8220;every man did what was right in his own eyes.&#8221; </em> Maybe Jesus&#8217; question of <em>&#8220;will I find faith on the earth when I return&#8221;</em> is beginning to make a little sense to a few of &#8220;simple&#8221; folk amongst us. His declaration that the way is very narrow, and that only a few will walk in it, will take on new meaning to some, as in &#8220;not very many will be saved&#8221; or that it will be only <em>&#8220;a remnant&#8221;</em> that escapes, or it will be like a shepherd who takes out of the mouth of a lion rib, or part of a leg.</p>
<p><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-512" title="Smart guy " src="http://www.indywatchman.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Smart-guy-3-300x225.jpg" alt="Smart guy " width="300" height="225" />Would it be a fantasy to venture into the realm of trust, that says that &#8220;faith&#8221; really is letting God be God, and doing what we have proven we can not, and doing what He said He would do, if we would just give up trying, and just rest on Him? What a novel idea, since this is what He has asked us to do in the first place. But, and there is always a &#8220;but&#8221; in the way. The &#8220;but&#8221; is this matter of pride of &#8220;doing&#8221; and &#8220;building&#8221; and &#8220;accomplishing&#8221; something for God.</p>
<p>Maybe, just maybe, since we can conclude that God is not pleased, is it possible that we have been &#8220;building&#8221; the wrong way, using our own blueprints, declarations, creeds, statements of faith, and marketing devices, instead of letting Jesus do it? Do we not understand what Jesus said, He said, <em>&#8220;<span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>I</strong></span> will build My Church.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>When I read the &#8220;Manhattan Declaration&#8221; my conclusion is that these men are way too smart for their own good, or ours.<a href="http://manhattandeclaration.org/"></a></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">The trouble with men, trying to be God, is that they all have agendas, they&#8217;re all diverse, not united. they all see things differently, and therefore wrong, not as God sees. Only God can do it right, so let Him, this is real repentance. Admit the failure, their own failure, my failure, your failure, and just repent. </span></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Due to the increased interest in this letter I have decided to re-post it. It was originally posted 2-18-2006. The letter contains many thing that will assist others in approaching their Church leadership and in making the hard decisions of whether or not to leave organized religion and to seek God on His terms apart [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="plus-one-wrap"><g:plusone href="http://www.indywatchman.com/adversity/an-open-letter-to-eagle-church-2/"></g:plusone></div><p>Due to the increased interest in this letter I have decided to re-post it. It was originally posted 2-18-2006. The letter contains many thing that will assist others in approaching their Church leadership and in making the hard decisions of whether or not to leave organized religion and to seek God on His terms apart from the general failure of the institution. </p>
<p>Steve Blackwell </p>
<p align="center"><b> Initial Contact with Kerry Bowman</b></p>
<p align="center"><i>Head Pastor of Eagle Church</i></p>
<p>Kerry,</p>
<p>I have become very disappointed in the path the Church is taking. I especially am upset with the way you openly link arms with the world in this leadership simulcast thing. What advise can the world give the Lord’s people on how to conduct business or anything else? Doesn’t the Bible make it perfectly clear that we are to pull back from the world? Shouldn’t the leader of Eagle Church be giving advice to stay away from the world as much as possible, not joining forces with them at every opportunity? How can you not expect to receive judgment for openly leading your congregation into sin? And, I simply cannot believe that other, supposedly followers of Christ, leaders, deacons, or just plain Godly people have not spoken up that you stop this absurdity. Has the Organized Church come to blatant, open, rebellion, against God? I can assure you that the Lord is not happy with this new direction. I am preparing an open letter to the congregation to alert them of your unfaithfulness to your position in the Church and to your calling if there is no repentance. The Churches across this land are falling into a very dangerous trap and the leaders will be held responsible to God for the loss of so many souls. I for one will not be silent. I have seen this coming and it is madness.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the FATHER is not in him.&#8221; &#8220;Ye adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with GOD? Whosoever therefore would be a friend of the world maketh himself an enemy of GOD.&#8221; &#8220;Be not unequally yoked with unbelievers; for what fellowship have righteousness and iniquity? or what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath CHRIST with Belial? or what portion hath a believer with an unbeliever?. . .Wherefore: —Come out from amonst them.&#8221; </i></p>
<p>Your immediate response is requested.</p>
<p>Steve Blackwell</p>
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<p align="center"><b>Open Letter to Eagle Church</b></p>
<p><b>ALARM!</b></p>
<p>Ezek 33:1-6<br />
<i>The word of the LORD came to me: &#8220;Son of man, speak to your countrymen and say to them: &#8216;When I bring the sword against a land, and the people of the land choose one of their men and make him their watchman, and he sees the sword coming against the land and blows the trumpet to warn the people, then if anyone hears the trumpet but does not take warning and the sword comes and takes his life, his blood will be on his own head. Since he heard the sound of the trumpet but did not take warning, his blood will be on his own head. If he had taken warning, he would have saved himself. But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet to warn the people and the sword comes and takes the life of one of them, that man will be taken away because of his sin, but I will hold the watchman accountable for his blood.”</i></p>
<p>My name is Steve Blackwell. I am not on the membership roles of Eagle or any other Organized Church, but my name is written in the Lamb’s book of life, and that is sufficient. I have been part of the Body here at Eagle since it was built and have watched the transition over the last several years.</p>
<p>This e-mail is being sent to all whose e-mail address is listed in the Church directory, and the Church leadership is receiving it at the same time you are. This e-mail is not being sent without the Pastor awareness. A personal note was sent to Pastor Kerry alerting him of my concern and asking for his response. He has chosen not to respond.</p>
<p>The direction that “The Church” is taking is very serious. I am not saying I have all the facts yet, but I have enough to sound a general alarm.</p>
<p>About a year and a half ago an alarm started going off in my spirit alerting me to a terrible problem we have in our nation and in our Church. This alarm has caused me to change my life radically and with the help of the Holy Spirit I will tell you some of what I know.</p>
<p>You may not agree with what I am about to say but I am obliged to fulfill my duty as a member of the Body of Christ to sound this alarm. It would be irresponsible of me not to do so. If you smelled smoke in your home, in the middle of the night, while every one was sleeping, you would conclude rapidly that your family was in grave danger. Your sense of survival would compel you to take action and save your family and yourself.</p>
<p>Being a Christian is not about doing the easy things and having fun; it is about being obedient and doing the hard things, even at the cost of breaking fellowship with the ones you have come to love. I am neither a highly educated man nor particularly courageous, I am only being obedient in what has been revealed to me through my spirit to warn any and all who will listen of the obvious darkness appearing on the spiritual landscape. Because of this revelation my family and I have elected to leave Eagle Church and continue with the meetings of the Church in our home.</p>
<p>I cannot but think that this message will, at the very least, cause some to investigate these claims further, with the hope that the Holy Spirit would enlighten you. These are grave times we are living in, a time to be awake and not asleep, a time to read your Bible again for the first time, and to think seriously about events relating to the end of time.</p>
<p>What I am saying is that I smell smoke and many others, across this nation and the world, also smell smoke. So please do not pull the covers back over your head, at least consider what I have to say. The first smell of smoke is no indication of just how bad the problem is, it may be minor or it may already be too late, but it can not be ignored.</p>
<p>I am not an “alarmist” by nature or a preacher of “doom and gloom.” I am a Christian realist, and what I am saying is with genuine concern. Where there is smoke there is fire, and the fire of the kind I am talking about has very severe consequences and can not be disregarded.</p>
<p>There has never been a time in all of Church history that has stood out with a more urgent cry to its people than today. There has never been a time when understanding and discernment were more needed, but rarely to be found. There has never been a time like this, where the ability to smell smoke was so needed. The alarm was being sounded as late as the 70’s by people like A. W. Tozer, Watchman Nee, and T Austin Sparks but, has been generally ignored; then there was relative silence. Now, the alarms are being sounded again and they are coming in from every quarter, from around the world.</p>
<p>As I said earlier, alarms started going off in my spirit, a short while back.  I have been a Christian for thirty years and nothing like this has ever happened before. In those thirty years of serving God and seeking the “good life” the “good life” had never been produced. I followed all the direction of the different preachers I sat under and read my Bible through many times, but the promise of happiness never materialized the way they predicted. My life was very ordinary, not rich, not poor, just your average person. I was not from a Christian home, but my mom and dad were good people and had Christian values, by default more than practice. We were just a normal average family with all the regular amount of chaos to deal with, seeking the American Dream.</p>
<p>I had this illusion that I was living the exemplary Christian life. Once saved, I quit my insurance sales job because of lifestyle conflicts, Marilyn, my wife, was a stay-at-home-mom, we sent our three girls to Christian schools, went to Church three times a week, worked hard and went to Bible college, we watched very little T.V., and rarely went out on the town, and never to bars or clubs. We were often complemented for our disciplined life style, and we were blessed in many respects, but something was lacking.  The chaos and problems we were seeing in other’s lives started showing up in our lives also, and our normal, average, American Christian lifestyle started coming apart at the seams. A year and a half ago the Lord re-entered my life in a very dramatic way after going through a kind of spiritual death. When He revived me I at once realized I was seeing things through different eyes and had a new understanding, as if I had been blind before this. The Bible, which I have studied continuously for the past thirty years, became a totally new book, as if I had never understood it at all in the past.</p>
<p><b>The First Alarm</b></p>
<p>I do not blame any of my past Ministers; I had all the same resources that they had, even though they had put themselves in the position of knowing the will and direction of God. They all talked about attaining to the “good life” and led their flocks down rosy paths, and rarely spoke of the extreme cost associated with such a venture. So, what I ended up with was a religion of the flesh, which was little different, in its final results, than the flesh of the world I had left behind. This is precisely the reason that statistics, of divorce, pornography, and abortion, inside the Church and outside the Church read the same; it is the same worldliness only dressed up in a different costume. This was the first Alarm! A very simple observation; there was no difference of quality of life of those inside and outside the Church, none.</p>
<p>Immediately prior to this renewal, I had laid out a set of questions to the Lord in the context of frustration; something like this: why Lord? Why this? Why that? Why me? Haven’t I tried to do all you wanted me to do? Why? Why? Why? And then I just gave up on ever hoping to receive an answer; I just slipped into death. It took me thirty years of building up a history of failure to finally realize that the Lord had allowed me to become an utter failure so that I could know Him in the power of His resurrection. I had never died before, like the Bible teaches that we should. I only died on paper, my certificate of baptism, not like Paul describes in chapter six of the book of Romans. And, it was at this point that He showed me my problem, and my problem was me; I was still alive in the flesh. I had never died with Christ. Now I understood that all that stuff about death and dying, that I had read through all those years past, was the secret threshold that had to be crossed that opened up the new life of trust and faith, a life lived by walking in the Spirit and not in the flesh. This is a life of really believing that God is able to do all He said He would, and walking in that belief; after all, what can a dead man do? Dead men don’t build Churches.</p>
<p><b>The Second Alarm</b></p>
<p>The Holy Spirit brought to me, with great force, that all the problems of the world that we hated, were present in the Church, that the world had successfully and completely infiltrated the Church, and that what we are seeing in the Organized Church today is the ultimate completion of a grand plan arranged by Satan himself. Actually you don’t have to look very hard or be very smart to see it; you only have to open your eyes.</p>
<p>The Church in America has failed. Drugs are in the Church, abortion, divorce, pornography, they’re all there, just like on the outside, and in some cases the Church exceeds the world. Even a small child can add 1 + 1. Even a novice businessman can see the failure of the Church as a Christ building business. Unless of course you’re looking at the money, then you might see some success and a motive to keep the Organized Church going. The Church as a numbers game does have promise, as we are seeing. So, Paul’s words that <i>“your meetings do more harm than good,” </i>really apply to the modern Church. If a person from the world comes to the Church seeking solutions, he or she will not likely find the ultimate answer, the answer they need.</p>
<p><b>The Third Alarm</b></p>
<p>The third alarm was a simple fact. All that I had read in the Bible for so many years just did not add up in real life and in the Church in America. Example #1, Jesus asked Peter who he said He was and Peter said, <i>“You are the Christ, the Son of the Living God.”</i> Jesus said to Peter that he had just received a supernatural revelation from the Holy Spirit and that upon this revelation, of who Jesus really was, His Church would be built and that <i>“the gates of Hell will not prevail against it.”</i> But, is that what we actually see with our own two eyes in America? No! In America the gates of Hell are prevailing. Americans have slipped into a coma and sin is out of control. Why? The Biblical conclusion is that we have departed the narrow path; we are pursuing <i>“another gospel,”</i> the American Dream, which is turning out to be a nightmare and completely off the narrow path. The dream of the “good life,” as we have come to know it in America, is an illusion and we are a country lost, in search of something that doesn’t exist. What we are given are policies, programs, more programs, creeds, and classes that have failed one after the other, but never led down that narrow way of dying to the flesh where the real answer awaits. The ways of men have never produced holiness, which is what our soul hungers for, in any of its people and can never prevail against the gates of Hell.</p>
<p>Example #2, In 2 Tim 3:12-13 Paul states as a matter of fact that <i>“everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted….”</i> Well, the obvious question is, who do we know that is being persecuted in America? If we want to find persecution we need to look in India, or China, or other places, but not in America. Why don’t we see persecution in America? Because what we say from our pulpits and the lives we live are no threat to Satan and his kingdom. I would dare say that he is very happy with the message; it is very social, very tolerant, very non-offensive, and very attractive to the world. One solution, to the problem of not being persecuted, might be to seek out those who are being persecuted and find out what they are doing and copy them. If we did we would very likely find that we too would begin to run into evil forces who do not take lightly the message of truth. We are a sick and dying bunch in America, who only has the appearance of health. If we would only be weak and humble, then would we be strong and healthy. If we would only be obedient with the simple message of truth instead of hiding the light under all our worldly programs then we too would discover that dark forces oppose the children of Light.</p>
<p>Example #3, The cost of following Jesus. All the scripture given in the Bible would lead one to believe that the cost of following Jesus is beyond money and resources, and will cost your very life, indeed it will cost you everything, money, resources, and your life, to follow Jesus. Here are just a few of the cost that are enumerated in the Bible:<br />
What is the cost of discipleship?<br />
1.    The true follower of Jesus must leave everything to follow Him, meaning that Jesus must have first priority in our life, over anything, or anyone else.<br />
2.    Another cost is to deny oneself.  To do the will of Jesus is to be more important than our own selfish ambitions and desires. We should pray, not my will, but yours be done.<br />
3.    We are to follow Him unconditionally and not let the concerns of this world prevent us. A total separation from worldliness and a total commitment to Jesus is required. In Luke 9: 57 to 62, we read of three people who desired to be disciples of Jesus, but their priorities were not right.  Jesus required their undivided attention and loyalty, but they were more concerned with possessions, personal gain, their livelihood and families. A person who does not put Jesus first cannot be a true follower.<br />
4.    Another cost of following Jesus is that we must Love Him supremely, from our whole heart, even more than we love ourselves and more than those closest to us, even our wife or children. Jesus said, &#8220;He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me&#8221; (Matthew 10:37) and for those of you who say, “It doesn’t mention ‘wife’” read Luke 14:26. In comparison to the love we have for Jesus, it is like hating those who in the natural sense are closest to us (Luke 14:26). This does not mean we do not love our family members; rather, Jesus used this expression as a means of comparison.<br />
5.    We must be willing to sacrifice for the sake of following Jesus. There may be a heavy price we must pay to follow Jesus with utmost commitment.  For some, it may mean giving up extra income, or giving up comforts, even giving up position, honor, or reputation. Let us have the attitude of the Apostle Paul who said, <i>&#8220;But indeed I also count all things loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as rubbish, that I may gain Christ&#8221;</i> (Philippians 3:8). Do you really believe this?<br />
6.    As followers we are to count the cost, and consider the hardships that will arise for the sake of Jesus. It could cause much division in the home, if one or two are believers in Jesus and the others are not. With this scenario in mind, Jesus said, <i>&#8220;Do you suppose that I came to give peace on earth? I tell you, not at all, but rather division.  For from now on five in one house will be divided: three against two, and two against three. Father will be divided against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother . . . &#8220;</i> (Luke 12:51-53). Converts to Christianity from other religions have experienced division and have even been abandoned and cast out by their families (Matthew 24:9). For them, there is no peace on earth, and yet they do have peace in their hearts, for they have peace with God and they will one day have peace in eternity with God.<br />
7.    Another cost of following Jesus is total surrender (Luke 14:33) and undying allegiance. We are to follow Him always, go wherever He leads, and obey His every command. He commands that we repent of sin; submit our wills, renew our minds, be baptized, consecrate our hearts, worship Him and have full and complete obedience to Him.<br />
8.    This brings us to the eighth item in our list of what it costs to follow Jesus&#8230; we must be willing to submit to Him, keep His commandments, and live a life worthy of bearing His name, that of being a &#8220;Christian.&#8221; Jesus said, <i>&#8220;If you love Me, keep My commandments&#8221;</i> (John 14:15). Every aspect of our life must be God-honoring.<br />
9.    Lastly, to use the expression of Jesus, the true follower must &#8220;carry his cross&#8221; and follow Jesus (Luke 14:27).  This means that we must endure pain, suffering, persecution (Philippians 1:29), and to even be willing to die for Him. The Apostle Paul exhorted the young man Timothy, &#8220;You therefore must endure hardship as a good soldier of Jesus Christ&#8221; (2 Timothy 2:3).<br />
I had fooled myself for years, and that foolishness was reinforced by the Church leaders, that I was O.K. with the Lord, when all along I was being deceived by Satan. The cost to follow Christ today has been so cheapened that a multitude of Pagans flood the church sanctuary looking for a free lunch; at the most it only cost a little in the collection plate, and they go home satisfied that they have worshiped God and all-is-well with their souls. We only delude ourselves into believing that we have paid the cost, but it has cost us nothing.</p>
<p>I could go on and on with numerous examples of how our lives do not measure up to what we read in the Bible, but you can read it for yourself, it is all there, on every page, you don’t need that any man should show you.</p>
<p>A little more then I’m done. These things were the beginning of my enlightenment. It never came through study but by the Holy Spirit through revelation, it just flashed upon me and I could see. The Holy Spirit has given me much insight into His Word and speaks to my spirit often now. What I have come to know now is that very much that goes on inside the Organized Church walls is totally worthless and that what is called the “church growth movement” is of the Devil and this is the main point of this letter.</p>
<p>Holy Scripture makes lots of things clear and one of those things is that man was born blind and has no capability to see unless sight is given to him by God. Man, in and of himself, is a stumbling, blind, creature. And also, it is clear that that blindness is through the deception of Satan. The Bible says he is the deceiver of the WHOLE world. It also says that in the end Satan will be cast into the bottomless pit, that serpent that deceived whole nations.  Is it conceivable that the people of America have believed a lie? Is it possible that through our disobedience and pride that God has allowed us to continue in that lie? Is it possible that we have gotten so involved in the lie that we won’t believe the Truth? Is it possible that we love the lie more than the Truth? Is it possible that we believe the Lie to be the Truth? All these things are possible as the Bible states and also that in the last days before Jesus’ return, we should expect these things, and be on our guard. The sad thing is that many who we call brother and sister will never see the Truth and continue on in their delusion. But, there will be some that will see and come out from amongst them.</p>
<p><b>The Fifth Alarm</b></p>
<p>Don’t get caught up in the bigness or business of the Organized Church. This should be another sign that something is wrong. Bigness, showiness, loudness, drama, twin video screens, gymnasiums, the mysterious disappearance of the Cross, and the like are all geared to appeal to the flesh and the world and are not of Christ; it is of man for man. As I said earlier it is a numbers game. The contention is that the end justifies the means, the end being that the Church will get large numbers of unbelievers into the building to hear the message. This is a lie. With Christ the ends never ever justified the means, never. The Lord doesn’t need the help of godless unbelievers to build His Church; He never has and never will, Not Rick Warren, Bill Hybels, not Robert Schuller, not Peter Drucker, not Bob Buford, or the worldly methodologies used by them such as,  Hegelian dialectics or Diaprax, thesis and antithesis, change agents, new paradigms or any other thing. A few have tried to warn us about this new “marketing and managing of the Church” movement: John MacArthur, and Oz Guinness to name a couple. Tozer warned that the Church was coming to this, and in 1 Tim 4:1-2 <i>“The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.”</i></p>
<p>2 Peter 2:1-3</p>
<p><i>&#8220;But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber.&#8221;<br />
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For the Church to openly admit that it is committing spiritual adultery with the world and not blink an eye is beyond me, and as far as I know none of the leadership is objecting. The Scriptures are explicit in this regard:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the FATHER is not in him.&#8221; &#8220;Ye adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with GOD? Whosoever therefore would be a friend of the world maketh himself an enemy of GOD.&#8221; &#8220;Be not unequally yoked with unbelievers; for what fellowship have righteousness and iniquity? or what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath CHRIST with Belial? or what portion hath a believer with an unbeliever?. . .Wherefore: —&#8221;</i></p>
<p><i>&#8220;Come ye out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord,<br />
And touch no unclean thing;<br />
And I will receive you,<br />
And will be to you a FATHER,<br />
And ye shall be to Me sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.&#8221;<br />
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We have to take our choice: we cannot enjoy both the world and CHRIST. Pastor Kerry in one of his last e-mails admitted that some of these who would be <i><b>“impacting”</b></i> you are  NON-Christians. Should shepherds lead God’s flock where He says danger waits?</p>
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<p>At a time in our history when we should be getting back to the basics of God’s Word and the simplicity found in Jesus, the Church is exploding into madness and heresy and open fornication with the world, and sincerely believes that God will bless it!</p>
<p>There is so much more that needs to be said but, I don’t know how to say it. All the Prophets and the Apostles foreseen these days and warned those who would live during the Last Days and we are “those” people. The alarms are sounding now. That little cloud on the horizon, we realize now, is a storm cloud, and it’s headed our way. I am afraid for many who will pull the covers over their head, push the snooze button, and just go back to sleep. “We live in America, what can harm us here?” We boast that “we are America” and that “there is no other” and while we sleep, we will be taken away, without another warning.</p>
<p>I know these words will draw fire and I fully expect it and am prepared for it. Not all will see the urgency. This letter, for most, will only be the ramblings of a silly man trying to spoil the fun and fellowship of God’s people.  For a few others it will be the signal to flee the wrath to come. I have never advocated that anyone take my word for anything, but check it out for your self. I will be praying for you.</p>
<p>I have fulfilled my duty to the Body of Christ @ Eagle.</p>
<p>May God bless you, and have mercy on us all.</p>
<p>Steve Blackwell</p>
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<p align="center"><b>Rebuttal by Tim Swarens</b></p>
<p align="center"><i>Vice Chairman of Eagle’s Board of Elders </i></p>
<p align="left">May 1, 2006</p>
<p>Eagle Church Family</p>
<p>Many of you recently received a lengthy e-mail from Steve Blackwell, who used to attend Eagle. As vice chairman of Eagle’s Board of Elders, I would like to respond to various assertions Mr. Blackwell made in his letter. Another elder and I will attempt to meet with Mt. Blackwell later this week. As always, if you have questions or concerns regarding this or any other matter, please feel free to contact me or another elderly directly.<br />
It’s important to note that Mr. Blackwell’s letter was sent without the knowledge of Eagle’s pastoral staff or elders. An e-mail was sent to Pastor Bowman late Friday informing of Mr. Blackwell’s intention to send the letter, but the message was not read until after the letter was distributed Saturday to about 300 e-mail addresses.<br />
Among the accusations that Mr. Blackwell made in his letter is the claim that “the Organized Church today is the ultimate completion of a grand plan arranged by Satan himself.” I have no idea how Mr. Blackwell arrived at this conclusion, but such accusations are not new. In Mark 3:22, the teachers of the law asserted that Jesus himself “is possessed by Beelzebub! By the prince of demons he is driving out demons.” in verse 23-29, Jesus responded to his accusation by saying, “How can Satan drive out Satan? If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand&#8230;”<br />
Look at Eagle in the past month: More than 900 of us celebrated the resurrection of our Lord and Savior on Easter Sunday. In the latest sermon series, Pastor Kerry challenged us not to turn Jesus into our personal mascot, but to make him our Monarch. Pastor Eric challenged small group members to confront and repent of sin in their lives. Pastor Brad and his team challenged us with dynamic, powerful worship and praise. Clint and Jen challenged high school and middle school students to grow in their faith through weekly teaching and through the Believe Conference at Anderson University. Pat Dragon challenged our children through, yes, fun, but also substantive teaching in our rainbow of zones on the lower level, plus the monthly KidStuf service.  We have sent a team of short term missionaries to Spain. We have begun preparing missionary teams for service this summer in Bosnia and Louisiana. We have prayed for and supported missionaries around the world, including our own Petula Myers in Bosnia. We have prayed for and comforted the sick, the hurting, the poor and the downcast. We have challenged one another, loved one another, and worshipped with one another as only the Body of Christ can do.<br />
Above it all we have been privileged to witness lives changed for eternity. Just yesterday, several people came to accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. Others were baptized. And hundreds of others were challenged by Pastor Kerry to live their lives fully for Christ.<br />
Eagle is “the ultimate completion of a grand plan arranged by Satan himself”? I think not. More important, I am confident that Jesus himself thinks not, but is in fact rejoicing at the souls saved and the lives transformed.<br />
Mr. Blackwell also condemns Eagle’s leaders and other evangelical leaders such as Bill Hybels and Rick Warren for playing “a numbers game.” Again, such criticism is not new. For decades, some Christians protested outside Billy Graham’s crusades because he was using the “wrong” methods and associating with the “wrong” people. The Rev. Graham was “too worldly” for these believers. I believe Jesus would point such critics to Luke 6: 37-45. He also could point them to 1 Corinthians 9: 19-23, including this passage written by the Apostle Paul, “I have become all things to all men so that by all possible means I might save some.”<br />
Please believe that Eagle’s pastor and elders strive to do everything for the sake of the gospel. Do we make mistakes? Yes, we are fallible humans who at times unintentionally irritate and even hurt fellow believers. We always will listen to concerns and correction honestly and humbly given. We will strive to correct true mistakes and lower obstacles that keep believers from growing in their faith. But we will never apologize for answering the call to introduce a lost and hurting world to a friend and savior named Jesus Christ.<br />
Finally, I do agree with one statement Mr. Blackwell made in his letter: “With Christ the end never justified the means.” that includes following the principles outlined in Matthew 18 for correcting a fellow Christian whom you believe is in error. Practicing those principles is essential for the healthy operation of Eagle Church or any other church. I pray, as an elder at Eagle, that each of us would follow Matthew 18 principles as we strive to serve together in Christ’s church. Thank you and God bless.</p>
<p>In Christ</p>
<p>Tim Swarens,<br />
Vice chairman, Elder Board<br />
Eagle Church</p>
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<p align="center"><b>Rebuttal of the Rebuttal</b></p>
<p align="center"><i>by Steve Blackwell</i></p>
<p align="left">A Rebuttal of the Rebuttal</p>
<p>Steve Blackwell</p>
<p>May 15, 2006</p>
<p>To All My Friends @ Eagle Church:</p>
<p>Of course you are all aware of the open letter I sent to Eagle Church. It was my intention to say my piece and then just let it go, but upon further thought and prayer I have decided to say something more.</p>
<p>In England they love to hunt fox; it is a great contest of hunter and dog skill. I mention this, not because what I’m doing is some sort of sport to be won or lost, but because of a tactic used, unfairly, to spoil the sport of the hunt. The night before the hunt, while no one is watching, a member of the opposing team would pull a little stunt to confuse the dogs. He would take a dead fish (red herring) and drag it across the field in front of where the opponent’s dogs would start. Dogs, even well trained dogs, depend on and are controlled by their sense of smell; they both love to hunt and to eat. Older dogs can overcome this trick through discipline, but younger dogs will give in to their appetite and follow the smell of the red herring. This trick has one purpose, and that is to throw the dogs off the trail of the fox to follow a false trail.</p>
<p>Tim Swaren’s rebuttal is a red herring, or worse, it is subterfuge, chaff, rubbish; I could have used stronger words but I’m trying to be polite. He is using his hunting skills of deception to manipulate the congregation’s, supposed ignorance, and lead them onto a different path. He knows that if the main issues of my letter are kept silent and played down they will go away; people have a short memory; they want to believe in their Pastor; they want to be kept out of such things; they want to think that everything is peachy, even if its not; they don’t want to be confused by the facts. He is purposely leading people away from facing the issues addressed, by focusing on incidentals and side issues, and skirting around major issues of unfaithfulness and worldly dealings and methodologies which are contrary to God’s word. The issues he stresses in his rebuttal concern only me, but the questions he avoids in my letter, if they are valid, concern the whole body, and have eternal consequences.</p>
<p>Red herrings are usually employed to avoid having to face an issue where the findings will not likely be favorable, so it becomes necessary to raise other issues, by re-stating the questions using different words, and directed at dirtying the questioner’s character. We see this all the time in politics and it is very effective, and it is also deceptive and dishonest, especially coming from the vice chairman of the board of Elders, who handles ethical issues. This in itself is worthy of investigation.</p>
<p>I am not trying to protect my character from assault but rather allowing the light of the Gospel to shine in truth. Let the assaults come, I make no defense for myself, the Word of God can speak for itself, and it is speaking loudly for those who can hear.</p>
<p>I want to apologize if my approach to the situation affected the Body in any adverse way by not adhering to the strict rule of “conflict resolution” as found in Matt. 18, although it would not have changed a thing, and as it turns out it was exactly the right thing to do. To allow the deacon board to have its shot at me before the mail went out, in hind sight, probably wouldn’t have been a good idea.</p>
<p>I am going to clarify a couple of things I said in my letter, that I assumed anyone with knowledge of the Bible would have understood.</p>
<p><b>No. 1</b>     “The Holy Spirit brought to me, with great force, that all the problems of the world that we hated, were present in the Church, that the world had successfully and completely infiltrated the Church, and that what we are seeing in the Organized Church today is the ultimate completion of a grand plan arranged by Satan himself.”</p>
<p>Tim said that he has no idea how I arrived at this conclusion, and then aligns me with the Pharisees, asserting, like the “leadership” of Jesus day, that Jesus possessed a devil. I am surprised that an Elder, especially the vice chairman, could make that statement, but I shouldn’t be considering the Bible forecast such blindness in the last days. To begin with I stated right in the letter how I came to that conclusion; I opened my eyes, or I should say the Lord opened my eyes, and then the Bible confirmed what I saw. It’s funny that he would use Mark 3:22-29 as his proof text, because it proves my point. The Pharisees accused Jesus of having an evil spirit; now we know that that is impossible. Is Tim saying that it is also impossible for the organized church to be deceived? Is he putting himself and the church on the same level as Jesus? Does he really believe that he and the church are perfect and above reproach?</p>
<p>Jesus Himself was trying to reason with the organized religion of His day, but they simply could not see it, they were blind; the blind leading the blind.  In Matt 23:13-36 Jesus confronts organized religion with these words:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;You&#8217;re hopeless, you religion scholars and Pharisees! Frauds! You go halfway around the world to make a convert, but once you get him you make him into a replica of yourselves, double-damned. &#8220;</i></p>
<p><i>&#8220;You&#8217;re hopeless! What arrogant stupidity! You say, &#8216;If someone makes a promise with his fingers crossed, that&#8217;s nothing; but if he swears with his hand on the Bible, that&#8217;s serious.&#8217; What ignorance! Does the leather on the Bible carry more weight than the skin on your hands? And what about this piece of trivia: &#8216;If you shake hands on a promise, that&#8217;s nothing; but if you raise your hand that God is your witness, that&#8217;s serious&#8217;? What ridiculous hairsplitting! What difference does it make whether you shake hands or raise hands? A promise is a promise. What difference does it make if you make your promise inside or outside a house of worship? A promise is a promise. God is present, watching and holding you to account regardless. &#8220;</i></p>
<p><i>&#8220;You&#8217;re hopeless, you religion scholars and Pharisees! Frauds! You keep meticulous account books, tithing on every nickel and dime you get, but on the meat of God&#8217;s Law, things like fairness and compassion and commitment — the absolute basics! — you carelessly take it or leave it. Careful bookkeeping is commendable, but the basics are required. Do you have any idea how silly you look, writing a life story that&#8217;s wrong from start to finish, nitpicking over commas and semicolons? &#8220;</i></p>
<p><i>&#8220;You&#8217;re hopeless, you religion scholars and Pharisees! Frauds! You burnish the surface of your cups and bowls so they sparkle in the sun, while the insides are maggoty with your greed and gluttony. Stupid Pharisee! Scour the insides, and then the gleaming surface will mean something. &#8220;</i></p>
<p>&#8220;You&#8217;re hopeless, you religion scholars and Pharisees! Frauds! You&#8217;re like manicured grave plots, grass clipped and the flowers bright, but six feet down it&#8217;s all rotting bones and worm-eaten flesh. People look at you and think you&#8217;re saints, but beneath the skin you&#8217;re total frauds.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;You&#8217;re hopeless, you religion scholars and Pharisees! Frauds! You build granite tombs for your prophets and marble monuments for your saints. And you say that if you had lived in the days of your ancestors, no blood would have been on your hands. You protest too much! You&#8217;re cut from the same cloth as those murderers, and daily add to the death count. &#8220;</i></p>
<p><i>&#8220;Snakes! Reptilian sneaks! Do you think you can worm your way out of this? Never have to pay the piper? It&#8217;s on account of people like you that I send prophets and wise guides and scholars generation after generation — and generation after generation you treat them like dirt, greeting them with lynch mobs, hounding them with abuse.&#8221;<br />
</i><br />
<i>&#8220;You can&#8217;t squirm out of this: Every drop of righteous blood ever spilled on this earth, beginning with the blood of that good man Abel right down to the blood of Zechariah, Barachiah&#8217;s son, whom you murdered at his prayers, is on your head. All this, I&#8217;m telling you, is coming down on you, on your generation.</i> &#8221;</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Jerusalem! Jerusalem! Murderer of prophets! Killer of the ones who brought you God&#8217;s news! How often I&#8217;ve ached to embrace your children, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you wouldn&#8217;t let me. And now you&#8217;re so desolate, nothing but a ghost town. What is there left to say? Only this: I&#8217;m out of here soon. The next time you see me you&#8217;ll say, &#8216;Oh, God has blessed him! He&#8217;s come, bringing God&#8217;s rule!&#8217;&#8221; </i></p>
<p>I wonder if Jesus adhered to Matt. 18 concerning conflict resolution?</p>
<p>But to be more specific concerning Satan’s desire to infiltrate the church, here are some Scripture references:</p>
<p>Jer 8:4-7<br />
<i>&#8220;&#8216;When men fall down, do they not get up?<br />
When a man turns away, does he not return?<br />
Why then have these people turned away?<br />
Why does Jerusalem always turn away?<br />
They cling to deceit;<br />
they refuse to return.<br />
I have listened attentively,<br />
but they do not say what is right.<br />
No one repents of his wickedness,<br />
saying, &#8220;What have I done?&#8221;<br />
Each pursues his own course<br />
like a horse charging into battle.<br />
Even the stork in the sky<br />
knows her appointed seasons,<br />
and the dove, the swift and the thrush<br />
observe the time of their migration.<br />
But my people do not know<br />
the requirements of the LORD. &#8221;<br />
</i><br />
This is a reference to the then present infiltration of Satan into the Jewish religious institution during the time of Jeremiah. It is also indicative of an ever repeating cycle in mans search for God. We cling to deceit! We have fallen and we need to get up! We have turned away and we need to return! We have strayed far from the requirements of the LORD. He doesn’t mention Satan by name, so are we to deduce that there was some other reason for their stupidity? No! It is Satan at work here and it is Satan at work always. It has always been Satan’s plan to destroy the Church, from the inside out. This is why judgment will start at the House of God.</p>
<p>Mark 12:1-11<br />
<i>He then began to speak to them in parables: &#8220;A man planted a vineyard. He put a wall around it, dug a pit for the winepress and built a watchtower. Then he rented the vineyard to some farmers and went away on a journey. At harvest time he sent a servant to the tenants to collect from them some of the fruit of the vineyard. But they seized him, beat him and sent him away empty-handed. Then he sent another servant to them; they struck this man on the head and treated him shamefully. He sent still another, and that one they killed. He sent many others; some of them they beat, others they killed.<br />
&#8220;He had one left to send, a son, whom he loved. He sent him last of all, saying, &#8216;They will respect my son.&#8217;<br />
&#8220;But the tenants said to one another, &#8216;This is the heir. Come, let&#8217;s kill him, and the inheritance will be ours.&#8217; So they took him and killed him, and threw him out of the vineyard.<br />
&#8220;What then will the owner of the vineyard do? He will come and kill those tenants and give the vineyard to others. Haven&#8217;t you read this scripture:<br />
&#8220;&#8216;The stone the builders rejected<br />
has become the capstone;<br />
the Lord has done this,<br />
and it is marvelous in our eyes&#8217;?&#8221;<br />
</i><br />
I have to concede a point here. If Satan could have killed the Son then he would not have a Church to infiltrate. Today Satan has the Church to deal with and blindness and deafness are such effective weapons against it. Just like the Jews, so is the Church; we never heard the voices of the Prophets who are read every Sabbath; when Jesus came they missed Him, even though they lived, ate, and slept with the Scriptures. Will we miss Him, with all our vast intelligence?</p>
<p>2 Peter 2:1-3<br />
<i>&#8220;But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them — bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.&#8221;<br />
</i><br />
Need I point out that this is talking about the demise of the Church as of 2006.</p>
<p>You might still be asking along with Tim, “I have no idea how Mr. Blackwell arrived at this conclusion,” if so consider the following. What do you say Christianity is? If I say I’m a Christian does that make it so? If I raise my hand at some prompt and say I accept Jesus, does that make me a Christian? What does a Christian look like? Who is a Christian by definition?</p>
<p>Pretend for a moment that you are someone who desires to be as rich as Bill Gates but at last tally had only accumulated a mere $50.00. If you were to call yourself a billionaire, should we go along with you because you are trying; would we be foolish enough to believe, because you use certain language, that you are indeed as rich as Bill Gates? I think wisdom would say, “Say to yourself my son, my daughter, ‘I am not a billionaire’ and guard against being called a fool.”</p>
<p>The point is this: if there is to be any meaning to what you have said you must at least resemble whatever it is you are striving towards. In order to hide the fact that this person is not a billionaire it simply becomes a matter of “confessing” positively that you are a billionaire and that you are at least trying to become a billionaire.  Having said that you can conclude that a person has to do nothing to become as rich as Bill Gates; how ridiculous. Anyone who reads the New Testament with any kind of desire to see what Christianity looks like has to see that there is nothing around us that “at least resembles” what we are trying to become. Consequently we are all made out to be fools: duped, tricked, and deceived. Jesus never once asked for admirers, supporters, or want-a-be’s. He only wanted followers and disciples.</p>
<p>Or, what about this? Is the Gospel for the poor or for the rich? Jesus said <i>“the Gospel is preached to the poor.”</i> Was this just a historical study or was He saying the Gospel was to be preached to the poor? My conclusion from reading the Bible is that the vast majority of the preaching was to the poor, by the poor. It was preached not just to the poverty stricken, but the poor wretched, the poor wronged, the poor oppressed, the poor crippled and lame and leprous and demonic. The Gospel was very Good New to them. It wasn’t money, good health, status, and all that garbage—No, this isn’t Christianity. Poorness in the world today, in this great United States, is turned into, not misfortune, but guilt. Originally, poorness was looked at as nearness to God. To be poor in this world is to be rich in the next. That is the way it was originally; this is the Gospel of the New Testament. It was preached to the poor, by the poor.</p>
<p>But soon there came a change. When preaching the Gospel became a livelihood, then the gospel became the good news of the rich. It became in the best interest of the preacher to swing the door open wide and secure the ranks of the rich and famous and the connected. It was then that the Good News ceased to be good tidings, transforming suffering and sorrow into joy. Now it has become a warranty of good times and a life intensified by drama and video and orchestras, and all wrapped up and secured with the hope of eternity. Today the gospel is preached to the rich and influential. Now, wait a minute. Aren’t we right back, all over again, to the very state Jeremiah talked about, to the very state that original Christianity opposed? The rich, wise and powerful get their cake and eat it too. They get to keep all their riches here on earth and then go bounding off to heaven, how absolutely wonderful Christianity has become, it has surely been perfected, how pleased Jesus must be.</p>
<p>Tim, Tim, Tim, I am afraid if you can’t see it, you won’t see it. School is almost out, finals are almost ready, and then we will know who passes. If we will discover, which I’m sure most will not, the way back, if we will return, if we will follow that inner leading to let go of this world, then we will know whereof Jesus spoke, whether it was from Himself or from the Father, John 7:17.</p>
<p>I said I was going to clarify a couple of things. The other thing I wanted to respond to was Tim’s remarks to my statement concerning Rick Warren. I think I will wait. What I will say though is that simply to use religious language and write best selling books does not make you favorable in God’s eyes. Remember Satan and the garden?</p>
<p>My heart aches as I write this because I know the time is so short and we are so blind.</p>
<p>God help us.</p>
<p>If you need more proof that that is where we are today go to God’s Word, it’s all there.<br />
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		<description><![CDATA[Lighthouse Trails give us a &#8220;Heads-up&#8221; as they present this review by Ezra McGill on Doug Pagitt&#8217;s new book.  Please take the time to read this and then pass it along. The original article can be viewed by clicking on this link. Steve Blackwell oug Pagitt&#8217;s New Book: A Christianity Worth Believing &#8211; NOT Worth [...]]]></description>
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<p>Steve Blackwell</p>
<p><span style="color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"><strong>oug Pagitt&#8217;s New Book: <em>A Christianity Worth Believing</em> &#8211; NOT Worth Believing!</strong></span> <span style="color: #333333; font-family: Garamond,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: small;"> </span> <span style="color: #333333; font-family: Garamond,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: small;"><br />
<img src="http://www.precipicemagazine.com/images/a-christianity-worth-believing.jpg" border="0" alt="A Christianity Worth Believing by Doug Pagitt" hspace="10" vspace="10" align="left" /><strong>by Ezra McGill<br />
Free-lance writer</strong></p>
<p>In his book, <em>A Christianity Worth Believing</em>, emergent leader Doug Pagitt presents a theology that is worth exposing, because it is neither biblical nor Christian. This is the unfortunate power of media-savvy emergent leaders&#8211;errant theology is couched in Christian terms, and the undiscerning are drawn in.</p>
<p>As others have noted, Doug Pagitt undoubtedly cares about his flock, the homeless, coffee farmers in Guatemala, and the environment. Yet, if the emergent movement could be summed up in one phrase, perhaps it is this: &#8220;Tiny men shaking tiny fists at the biblical God.&#8221;<br />
The Bible tells us, &#8220;The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the LORD shall have them in derision.(Psalm 2: 2-4)</p>
<p>The author of <em>A Christianity Worth Believing </em>vigorously disputes the authority of Sola Scriptura&#8211;the Word of God. He writes, &#8220;The inerrancy debate is based on the belief that the Bible is the word of God, that the Bible is true because God made it and gave it to us as a guide to truth. But that&#8217;s not what the Bible says&#8221; (p. 65).</p>
<p>He further explains, &#8220;This is how it works. We are characters in the stories we hear. The living Bible invites us to step into the stories, not as observers, but as participants in the faith that is alive and well and still being created&#8221; (p.67).</p>
<p>That&#8217;s right. The author believes Christianity is still in the process of being created. Obviously, this theology that is being created is in total opposition to biblical Truth. Like the author of The Shack, Pagitt categorically denies the substitutionary atonement of Jesus Christ.</p>
<p>He states, &#8220;the early evangelists recognized they could help the Jesus story make sense if Jesus was seen as someone who was chosen to appease the wrath of God&#8211;hence, the &#8216;anointed one&#8217; who could do what no one else could do&#8221; (p. 181).</p>
<p>So, minus our Savior, how does this emergent leader view receiving forgiveness for sins? Before we get to this, let us understand that he spends a good deal of time making the artificial distinction between Christians&#8217; alleged Greco-Roman understanding of God (Pagitt sees this as a distant God), and the Old Testament Hebrew God (always present, understanding, and intimate).</p>
<p>Incredibly, the author presents the Old Testament as his &#8220;proof&#8221; that there has always been accessible forgiveness for sin. He notes that his wife was raised in a Jewish family, and she &#8220;tells [the congregation] each year that the Jews would celebrate the Day of Atonement by gathering lint from their pockets, every little corner of them. She invites us to do the same. Then we write confessions on pieces of paper or pick up leaves to represent each sin and walk to the edge of a stream. As we drop our leaves and papers into the stream, we read from the Psalms&#8221; (pp.163-164).</p>
<p>Psalm 103:11-13 is then read to Pagitt&#8217;s congregation: &#8220;For as the heaven is high above the earth, so great is his mercy toward them that fear him. As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us. Like as a father pitieth his children, so the LORD pitieth them that fear him.&#8221;</p>
<p>Following this, he writes, his wife, &#8220;reminds us that just as the water carries our words away, God takes our sins from us. As far as can be, sin is removed, taken, gone. Yes, sin exists, and when we find it, we should get rid of it&#8221; (p. 164).</p>
<p>But what defines &#8220;sin&#8221; if the Bible is not really the authoritative Word of God? If Christ is not Savior? Pagitt never really gives a satisfactory answer to this.</p>
<p>&#8220;Thy prophets have seen vain and foolish things for thee: and they have not discovered thine iniquity, to turn away thy captivity; but have seen for thee false burdens and causes of banishment&#8221;(Lamentations 2:14). Pagitt assures us he understands this new theology can be upsetting. &#8220;This can come as a shock to those Christians who are so used to hearing that Jesus is the solution to sin that they assume that the remedy started with the death of Jesus. The Jewish Tradition tells us otherwise&#8221; (p. 163).</p>
<p><em>A Christianity Worth Believing</em> is the presentation of a distorted version of our faith. It is the tepid celebration of a powerless, false &#8220;christ.&#8221; It is textbook emergent heresy. Those reading this book who do know and love Christ may feel disgust, disbelief, even scorn. Well and good. But may we also be very afraid for those who are exposed to such teaching.</p>
<p>&#8220;But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned&#8221; (1 Corinthians 2:14).</p>
<p>One gets the sense that Doug Pagitt seems compelled to deny the Truth&#8211;he simply cannot see it. He is the angry blind man striking out with his cane. He swings, he slashes; he jabs and stabs. Unfortunately, that sharpened cane has poked out many an eye.<br />
And seems poised to pierce many, many more.</p>
<p>&#8220;And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch?&#8217;&#8221; (Luke 6:39)</p>
<p><strong>Related Information:</strong></p>
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