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<h1>What God Says About Water Baptism</h1>
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<p>It is unfortunate, yet undeniable, that the subject of water baptism has polarized and divided men for centuries. Unregenerate religious leaders and other “christians” have littered history with ungodly exploits in defense of their doctrines. Not uncommon are accounts of religious leaders and “scholars” physically seizing those that would dare to question whether or not infant baptism via sprinkling is allowable by God. After a mock “orthodoxy” trial, these well-respected church elders, preachers and authors literally drowned to the death the nonconformists in a river to demonstrate the superiority of their doctrine of sprinkling over immersion baptism.</p>
<p>As documented case history, the City Council of Zurich passed a legal decree in March, 1526. The edict commanded that those who immersed in water one that had confessed faith in Jesus Christ (rather than upholding the accepted church ordinance of the day: sprinkling all infants) were to be publicly executed by drowning. In a short span of time, the socially acceptable religious bodies of that day had murdered between four and five thousand men and women in this manner (p.269, Church History in Plain Language, Bruce L. Shelley).</p>
<p>While the atrocity of murder seems uncivilized and socially unacceptable in our day and time, our Master, Jesus Christ, said very clearly that the barriers and divisions and antagonism that mark the “christendom” of today is murder, as judged by the Heavenly Courts. This is true as absolutely as if we also literally murdered one-another by forcible drowning (Mt.5:21-24; 7:1-2; 12:7; Jas. 3:13-18; 1Jn.3:14-16; 4:20-21; Lk.10:29). That’s really frightening, isn’t it?</p>
<p>Is there an answer? Should we, or can we, allow the schisms that have characterized all of christian history to mar our unity and Fellowship with the Father and one another? Of course not. We have no desire, if we’re honest and discerning, to face Him with our current divisions. Should we then compromise the Word of God to the lowest common denominator of “truth” to accommodate everyone that seems sincere enough? God forbid! In so doing, we would allow others to lose their souls by our careless or cowardly approach to the Word of God. That Word will judge every man impartially on the Last Day, regardless of our sincerity (Jn.12:48; 1Tim.4:1-2, 16; Mt.7:21; 2Tim.4:3).</p>
<p>What then can we do? On the subject of baptism, or any other subject in God’s Word, we must in some respect view the subject from God’s perspective, as one “seated with Christ in Heavenly Realms” with “the mind of Christ.” The other alternative (seemingly the one exercised most frequently in history) is warring with words and an attorney’s logic. This eliminates any chance whatsoever that we will truly understand the Word of the Lord. (See Mt.11:25-27; 1Cor.1:25-30, 2:9-16.)</p>
<h2 class="h2_body">Always the Challenge</h2>
<p>Though you may feel as if you already understand biblical “baptism in water,” in view of the fact that this subject is so important to Jesus, I would still plead with you to enter into the next few pages with a posture of true Wisdom: “Fear of the Lord.” Pretend (as I attempt to in looking into any subject in the Word of God) that you have never previously considered the idea and just want to know what Almighty God (rather than man) has said regarding this important subject of baptism. Pretend that you are on a desert island and have never seen a Bible before, or heard of the idea of “church.” Suddenly, the Creator of the Universe dropped a Book down to you and asked you to act on what He has to say about “baptism” in His Book. Will you do this, regardless of your previous position on the subject? Can you discipline your heart to do this, just one more time, no matter how well studied you may be? (If you can’t look inside your own heart and say “Yes, I will honestly look at, and prayerfully consider these thoughts from the Scriptures without the eyeglasses of a predetermined viewpoint on baptism, then it would be best not to go on at this point. The temptation to peruse casually, or to use the time evaluating the author, rather than letting the Word evaluate us, will always be with us in such situations. Only the truly “good and honest hearts” will approach challenges in the Word in the way our Father intends—with teachable hearts. What a battle for us all!)</p>
<p>Having gotten to this point, it is my desperate prayer that the divisions and complexities that the “doctrines of men” have created (it surely is not our Father’s fault!) can be in some measure diminished by God’s great grace and whatever Truth you may find in these pages. In the remainder of this discussion would you give me the privilege of being very frank and to the point? I will have to trust you that you will not ask me to walk a tightrope of diplomacy and Dale Carnegie (I’m not very good at that kind of thing anyway). I do promise that I’ll do my best to speak the Word of the Lord if you’ll read on. I must do it, however, without apology to the myriad of “teachings” in the religious world today. Our God is a person, and therefore does not hold two contradictory opinions on any subject whatsoever. It really does matter to our Father (as you read in the previously listed verses of Scripture) what we believe and what we do. Will you resolve, as I truly hope that I have, that you will not pass from this life having forfeited any of the riches that He has held out to you, His child?</p>
<p>We can choose to forfeit His Best, and even salvation itself, by ignorance of His Word. Loss will also be suffered whenever laziness, procrastination, or defensiveness hinder our pursuit of that which would honor the God that died for us. So many have disobeyed the Living God due to potential consequences in their families or workplace or church. Please look to Heaven with a clear conscience and say “Yes! I’ll follow You Jesus wherever you go, immediately, no matter what the cost!” Now, onward!</p>
<h2 class="h2_body">The Dilemma</h2>
<p>In my experience in various parts of the religious world, it seems to me that some of us have overlooked the significance that the Word of God assigns to the subject of baptism. Why would a person with a good heart and a good understanding of the Word of God and the Good News of Jesus Christ overlook the heavy weight that God places on water Baptism every single time that He (God) mentions it? Usually it is because all of their lives most have been taught (wonderfully) that Salvation is by Faith and the Grace of God—and Baptism doesn’t seem to fit in to this picture anywhere.</p>
<p>It is said, “If it is a ‘work’ necessary to be saved that is added to the work of the cross—it is surely optional and superfluous, no matter how good a thing it might be.” While this is certainly true, without discernment, a delicate line can easily be crossed which leads down a path of denying Jesus by denying the immutability of His Word.</p>
<p>Others, meanwhile, in good conscience and an honest attempt to “speak where the Bible speaks and be silent where the Bible is silent” have moved in a direction that has deeply grieved our God. This has endangered true Fellowship with Jesus as a living Person. This school has viewed baptism as part of a formula for Salvation. In the process (though the place of these issues in the Scriptures is immense), we have raised up a generation of church-goers that have never known a living intimacy and vital, tangible friendship with Jesus. Though certainly no one would verbalize it as such, Jesus, in this environment, isn’t the focal point of Salvation at all. He’s really, objectively speaking, not even a “sixth step” along with “hear, believe, repent, confess and be baptized.” He is, instead, thought to have taught us a recipe that would yield salvation if properly implemented, even down to the “magic words” that we say over the ceremony. If we pursue this course, Jesus died in order to leave us a formula for salvation and a rule book for living the “good christian life.”</p>
<p>Unfortunately, when this view is embraced, the only true hope for true, “abundant Life” as a “new creation,” with “rivers of living water gushing from his belly” and living in the “power of an indestructible life,” in true, deep fellowship with the Creator of time and eternity is lost because we have never met, really met, Jesus from Nazareth. Some have embraced only a historical idea and doctrine, rather than a living friend. What a tragedy!</p>
<p>The living and active Word of the living and active God of the Word must be our source of wisdom and guidance in order to harmonize (without compromise) the seeming complexities of trusting absolutely “justification by Faith” with many other verses that may <em>seem</em> to require adding something to our Faith. How are we to understand: “Unless you Repent, you will all perish,” and “He that believes and is baptized shall be saved.” Is the verse “If you confess with your mouth, ‘Jesus is Lord,’ and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved” adding a “good work” (confessing literally and verbally with your mouth) to simple Faith as a basis of Justification by the Blood of Christ? (Rom.3:22-24, 10:9-10; Luke 13:3; Mk.16:16; Acts 2:38). Since “In the Beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God” was written before time and creation in the heart of the Eternal Godhead, it is well worth our while to penetrate deeply into every aspect of the Utterance of God recorded for us. Would you agree?</p>
<p>It seems reasonable that we should never relegate anything to a secondary place due to abuses perpetrated in the past. Right? What God says to us about any given subject we must hold precious and jealously guard. Make it your fervent quest to “let none of His Words fall to the ground” &#8230;for as we penetrate deeper into the Word of God, we penetrate deeper into Eternal Divinity. “&#8230;and the Word was God.”</p>
<p>Please do not, as you read this, make the mistake of letting the prejudices of the “empty traditions handed down by our forefathers” blind you to anything in His Word and Heart. There is so much that the Creator would desire us to comprehend more fully and respond to in Faith-filled obedience. Is that not the whole of the Christ-life, to walk in intimate fellowship with and obedience to “every Word that proceeds from the mouth of God?” (Jn.17:3-4; Jn.14:15-22; Deut.8:1-14; Mt.4:4). Please move on to the thoughts that follow with a “good and honest heart.” (This is the only “good soil” according to Jesus: Lk.6:43-49; 8:8-15.) Approach the Word, always, with instant “on earth as it is in Heaven” obedience if it is truly the Word of the Lord. Do not consider ramifications. Do not ponder the cost of walking in the Truth of God and then procrastinate or dilute the Truth or your response to appease mere men. It cannot be worth it, under any circumstances. Agreed?!</p>
<h2 class="h2_body">Jesus in His Fullness and ALL of His Word</h2>
<p>A principle worth remembering is, as the writer of Psalm 119 said (by the authority and inspiration of God), “The sum of Thy Word is Truth” (RV, NAS, verse 160). What that means is simply this: We cannot take a verse of scripture that says what we’d like it to say and camp out on that passage as if it is not part of an integral whole. The Person of Jesus Christ is “Truth” (John 14:6; 1:1). Nothing less than the entire Word, and the entire Person of Jesus of Nazareth should be held out as “Truth” on any given subject. It was readily seen in Jesus’ day that the “experts in the Bible” did err, “not knowing the scriptures or the power of God.” They continually accused the Author and the Personification of Truth of being “unscriptural.” Take a step back in awe before you pigeon-hole baptism as some trite religious nicety for goopy zealots. Try to understand <em>all</em> that God has to say and all that Jesus did (and “is”) about any given subject!</p>
<p>EXAMPLE: Suppose that I said to you, “You must receive nutrition or you will absolutely die.” You would agree that the truth stands as beyond debate (particularly if God had made a sovereign statement to this affect). While this statement is absolute in terms of its accuracy, it does not eliminate the mandatory nature of other elements, such as air and water.</p>
<p>APPLICATION: “The sum of Thy Word is Truth.” It is therefore fair to say that we may not take a verse such as “If you confess with your mouth that ‘Jesus is Lord’, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved” (Rom.10:9) and call that verse the way unto salvation. Why? Because Jesus, our Lord said, “Unless you REPENT you will all perish” (Lk.13:3, 14:33). Since no one can at the same time perish and be saved (remember that “the sum of Thy Word is Truth”), it is absolutely necessary to believe in your heart that God raised Jesus from the dead and gave Him a Name above every Name.</p>
<p>Clearly, it is also necessary to literally speak out loud with your lips that you hereby declare publicly that you acknowledge what the Father has done in Jesus: He is Lord of Heaven and earth. Henceforth He will also be recognized Lord of every nook and cranny, ambition, fear, vice and thought in your life also.</p>
<p>It is also clear (“the sum of the Word is Truth”) that repentance (the change of mind and implementation in a practical, observable way of the new direction you are now taking) is just as mandatory for salvation! The first passage is fully true, yet so is the second passage fully true. We need to fully embrace all Scripture, not accept some and push some to the “back burner” because we don’t completely understand how to harmonize the two ideas.</p>
<p>If other things, such as baptism, were given similar weight in the heart and Word of God, they would be no less valid because these other things are true. Would you agree with this much?</p>
<p>EXAMPLE: Because we know that it is true, “You must eat food or you will absolutely die,” that is not to say, “If you eat food you will absolutely live.”</p>
<p>APPLICATION: We have already seen that “If you confess with your lips, ‘Jesus is Lord,’ and believe in your heart God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.” Yet, who more than Satan believes that God raised Jesus from the dead? It is not enough to believe this only! “Even the demons believe—and tremble! You foolish man, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless?” (Jas.2:19-26). Most that we say are “believers” don’t believe as much as the demons do. Few men that “go to church” have ever really “trembled” at the thought of approaching an all-powerful and Holy God. Most have been taught just to say a little prayer in order to go to Heaven. Since the demons believe enough to “tremble,” are they therefore saved? Of course not.</p>
<p>Let’s carry the analogy a step further. The confession with the lips that “Jesus is Lord” is apparently not a free ticket into salvation, in and of itself, either. Jesus Himself said, “Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord did we not prophesy in Your Name,and in Your Name drive out demons, and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me you evil doers! You did not do the will of my Father.’” (Mt. 7:21-23). To say with your lips “Jesus is Lord” isn’t the end of the road, is it? And obviously they believed God raised Jesus from the dead—they even performed miracles and cast out demons in His Name! While the Word of God is inspired and therefore confession of “Jesus is Lord” with the lips is mandatory, it is obviously not sufficient in itself to guarantee salvation. “The sum of the Word is Truth.”</p>
<h2 class="h2_body">What IS Water Baptism, According to God?</h2>
<p>With that as a backdrop, let’s look without prejudiced or preconceived ideas at what the Bible, the heart of God, is on Baptism. We mustn’t, of course, eliminate or minimize the other expressions of approaching God through faith in Christ alone, but understand God’s heart and penetrate into what HE means when He speaks of “faith”.</p>
<p>On the next page, you will find a listing of every single time that God used the word “baptism” in His Word. If you are serious in understanding what God has to say about this, I know that you’ll find it greatly rewarding and enlightening to look up each of the references our God has made to water baptism. Look at His Word about this subject in the teaching of Jesus and His Apostles, and in the Book of Acts (where God was gracious enough to give us living examples of men walking in this teaching). The two (the teaching and the example) correspond, as we might imagine that they would. If you wanted to know everything that an encyclopedia has to say about “Relativity,” you wouldn’t look under “skydiving.” Nor would you try to understand God’s view of money by looking at Jesus’ teaching about divorce. It is also safe to say that the best way to learn of the mind of your Creator on baptism is to read each of the times our God (Who wastes no words) presents to us His thoughts on the matter.</p>
<p>Please read each reference. Honestly write down (as a child, in simplicity, without straining to apply some high and lofty denominational doctrine to it!) the <em><strong>weight</strong></em> that the Father has assigned to “water baptism.” Now if you believe exactly <strong>that</strong> (which Jesus, and the men of God that knew Him, had to say about water baptism), and tell others exactly <strong>that</strong>—you are not far from the Kingdom. I wouldn’t dare teach anything about baptism that gives it less value than these passages, would you?</p>
<h2 class="h2_body">Baptize, Baptized, Baptizing, Baptism</h2>
<p><span class="grammar_bold">Matthew</span> 3:1, 3:6, 3:7, 3:13, 3:11, 3:14, 3:16, 11:1, 11:12, 14:2, 14:8, 16:14, 17:13, 20:22, 20:23, 21:25, 28:19</p>
<p><span class="grammar_bold">Mark</span> 1:4, 1:5, 1:8, 1:9, 10:38, 10:39, 11:30, 16:16</p>
<p><span class="grammar_bold">Luke</span> 3:3, 3:7, 3:12, 3:16, 3:21, 7:29, 7:30, 12:50, 20:4</p>
<p><span class="grammar_bold">John</span> 1:25, 1:26, 1:28, 1:31, 1:33, 3:22, 3:23, 3:26, 4:1, 4:2, 10:40</p>
<p><span class="grammar_bold">Acts</span> 1:5, 1:22, 2:38, 2:41, 8:12, 8:13, 8:16, 8:36, 8:38, 9:18, 10:37, 10:47, 10:48, 11:16, 13:24, 16:15, 16:33, 18:8, 18:25, 19:3, 19:4, 19:5, 22:16</p>
<p><span class="grammar_bold">Romans</span> 6:3, 6:4</p>
<p><span class="grammar_bold">1Corinthians</span> 1:13, 1:14, 1:15, 1:16, 1:17, 10:2, 12:13, 15:29</p>
<p><span class="grammar_bold">Galatians</span> 3:27</p>
<p><span class="grammar_bold">Ephesians</span> 4:5</p>
<p><span class="grammar_bold">Colossians</span> 2:12</p>
<p><span class="grammar_bold">Hebrews</span> 6:2</p>
<p><span class="grammar_bold">1 Peter </span>3:21</p>
<p>There is absolutely no possibility that one could read what the Bible has to say about it and conclude that it is simply a ritual or symbol to obey because “Jesus said so.” Nor is the significance of baptism limited to the example of Jesus Himself being immersed in water. It is not simply a way to “place membership” at a local church. It is not just a horizontal “outward act.” At least that is not the way Jesus, Paul, Peter, John, Luke, and the men we can trust saw it! All of the folks we read about in the Bible, under apostolic teaching, that saw the opportunity of being immersed in water did so <em>immediately</em>, even after midnight! There was nothing in any of them that wanted to debate the issue or wait until “Baptism Sunday!” They saw something that today’s religious world often has overlooked about God’s Heart in water baptism.</p>
<p>Is it a “command?” Jesus did, we all know, “say so.” Specifically, “He that believes and is baptized shall be saved” and “Go make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to obey all things I have commanded you” (Mk.16:16; Mt.28:18-20). And, you surely agree, that the reigning King of the Universe “said so” is more than sufficient cause for anyone who has not been immersed in water to respond to His command.</p>
<p>Shouldn’t we all eagerly pursue all that God has for us? Remember the Treasurer of the nation of Ethiopia who responded to the teaching about Jesus (Acts <img src='http://www.indywatchman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> with, “Here is water, what hinders me from being baptized?!” Certainly 100% of those that really love Jesus will “keep His commands” (Jn.14:15) without rationalizing. If you are a devoted follower of Jesus, or are ready to become one, and are not in Christ’s ultimate Will and have not been immersed in water to this point, you can (and should) quickly find a Disciple to immerse you, even it is after midnight when you read this.</p>
<p>That would be a response made in “good company.” Recall the man who was the apostle Paul’s guard in the jail cell in Philippi. He gave his life to Christ and was immediately baptized (Acts 16:33)—at probably 1:00 AM, not the next month, or three years later! The men and woman that heard the teaching about Jesus, and the response that God called for, were all seemingly very convinced at the urgency of response to the Good News about Jesus. We must also, if we are responding to the same Jesus and the same Gospel that they heard.</p>
<p>Even beyond that, no one could honestly read only what the Word of God has to say about baptism (as if on a desert island without preconceived ideas) and conclude that it is simply a visible ritual to compliment the religious life, or to join a local church roll. If you have read the attached complete list of verses in context, you must be impressed as I was at the awesome weight that God attaches to “baptism”/”baptizein, baptisma” (“immersion” is the Greek word that God selected) every time He mentions it. At no time is the idea of baptism in water, immersion of a person who has given his life to Jesus Christ, ever referred to, or treated by anyone in the Bible, as an optional symbol. It mustn’t be done at one’s leisure (or skipped entirely), or be done by sprinkling.</p>
<p>(God could have used the words “<span class="grammar_ital">ballo</span>” or “<span class="grammar_ital">rhantizo</span>” if He had meant them to be baptized by “pouring” or “sprinkling.” One could say that <span class="grammar_ital">baptizo</span> and the associated words for “baptism” may include “pouring, until totally saturated” based on certain references related to the Holy Spirit “outpouring”—though certainly never would the word baptism mean “sprinkled.”)</p>
<p>I know, fellow pilgrims, that God is not a tyrant that is looking to smoke anyone who does not line up with every “jot and tittle.” Yet I also know how presumptuous it is of mere men such as you and I to trifle with the Eternal Word that “was with God and was God!” Agreed? <em>And the blessings that we forfeit by not penetrating fully into His Will for us! </em>I want everything that He wants for me. I crave to “apprehend that for which I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.” Surely that is no less than we owe the God who gave His Son to die for us.</p>
<p>Additionally, you must not be “yoked” to, be a member of, a Christian group that would persist in denying or rationalizing away what our One Lord has clearly said about this or any other subject. Our lives must be joined only to those that really love Him enough to obey Him from the heart every time they learn something new, regardless of the consequences. There is no time to waste!</p>
<p>Consider these examples:</p>
<p>1. (Acts 2:36-41) A multitude were “cut to the heart” and asked what to do to be saved. Would you have a <em>different</em> answer than an apostle who was “filled with the Holy Spirit?” If someone asks me: “What must I do?” I dare say I am not going to answer as men often do today “Bow your heads and ask Jesus to come into your heart to be your personal Savior.” Nowhere in the Bible is the “Sinner’s prayer” (or sprinkling of an infant) given as the hope of salvation.</p>
<p>The majority of popular teaching makes Jesus out to be a wishy-washy “do me a favor” kind of “savior,” rather than the Infinite and Immortal Creator of the galaxies. If we really “see Him Who is invisible,” we bow our knee to Him, in reverence and sorrow that we were the cause of His death when He walked among us. And we “follow the Lamb wherever He goes” because He is a great and mighty King over all of the heavens and the earth.</p>
<p>To demonstrate that the popular view of “conversion” just mentioned cannot be correct, look at the multitude of conversions that occur in the New Testament church record. Not even one time is anyone asked to say a “sinner’s prayer” and invite Jesus into their heart. In light of that fact, how could we, even one more time, dare to answer the question “What must I do to be saved” with an answer like that? (Remember—you gave me the permission to be frank with you early on in this discussion. Don’t get upset now—just see if these things are true. Can you find even one example of “asking Jesus to come into one’s heart and be their personal Savior?”)</p>
<p>Personally, when asked what a person “must do to be saved” I’ve got to answer, at least within the conversation somewhere, like the inspired Apostle Peter did: “Repent and be immersed everyone of you, in the name of Jesus Christ.” Why, Peter? “So that your sins may be forgiven.” No matter how you translate it, what a great reason to repent and be immersed!</p>
<p>Peter went on to warn them and plead with them to “save themselves” (vs. 40), and “those who accepted his message were immersed”—3,000 of them heard the message of Jesus and were baptized and added to the number of disciples (vs. 41). How would you or I be added to the number of disciples in some <em>other</em> manner? Let’s give Peter’s (therefore God’s) answer when someone asks us “What must I do to be saved?” It may not be popular with the denominations that teach something else, but no one can deny that it is the answer that the inspired, spirit-filled apostle gave when he was asked that question. Only if you go with that will you be on God’s ground.</p>
<p>2. (Acts 8:26-39). Philip, the evangelist, was told by an angel to go to the road to Gaza, a city near Egypt. He explained to a high-ranking official from Ethiopia “the Good News about Jesus” (vs. 35). The man’s immediate response to whatever Philip taught him about Jesus was “Look—here’s water. What hinders me from being immersed?” He ordered the chariot to stop. Both Philip and the man went down into the water and Philip immersed him (vs. 36-39).</p>
<p>It seems clear to me that whatever I teach as the “good news about Jesus” had better included something that inspires the one I’m teaching to say: “Look, here’s water. Why can’t I be baptized right now?!” Does your message about Jesus inspire that question? Please! It must!</p>
<p>3. (Mark 16:15-16, Matthew 28:18-20). The last words that a man speaks before he departs are always carefully chosen, aren’t they? The Son of God issued a command to make disciples of all nations, immerse them in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and then teach them to obey all of the commands of God. These were amongst His last words before He left this earth to ascend back into Heaven. Ask Jesus why a person should be baptized, and He’ll answer this way every time, “He that believes and is baptized, immersed, shall be saved” (Mark 16:16).</p>
<p>He states at the end of that verse that believing on Him (“putting our full weight on Him,” in absolute trust) is the foundation. <em>Baptism is just “getting wet” without our faith in Him. </em></p>
<p>How it must grieve the Father when even a single person is taught in such a way as to cause them to depend on a “formula.” Or to depend on a “church” that claims to have all the “biblical” answers. Oh, please! Turn to a living friend named Jesus that “was dead, and behold! is alive forever and ever!” What a heartache that must be to the Father that He gave the very life of His Son to purchase men back from a well-deserved and certain death, and some have the ignorance or audacity to make a doctrine out of a Person. The “Way of Salvation” is a PERSON, and a friendship with Him. There is no other salvation available! (Jn.17:3; 14:6; 7:39-40; 2Cor.13:14; 2Cor.3:16-18; Rom.10:13) There is no single issue in all of a man’s span of life in this realm that is more crucial to understand and stand upon with unwavering conviction. Our God can only be pleased with a People that approach Him solely on the basis of Jesus as their “all in all” and only access to His Glorious presence.</p>
<p>Even so! Our Lord Jesus did not stutter—He meant what He said. Man says: “He that believes and is saved shall be baptized.” Did you catch the order that man has worded this? Man says: “He that believes and is saved shall be baptized.”</p>
<p>Christ says it in a drastically different way. The Son of the Living God said: “He that believes and is baptized—that man has salvation.” Not “either/or” at some man’s discretion. I’m not going to trifle with God by re-arranging His words. I will “believe and be baptized” as the Lord taught.</p>
<p>If this is intimidating you, or making you angry or defensive, that is surely not my intention. I am trying to state everything in terms that are extremely clear, even if to the point of overstating something, in order that all of this cannot be overlooked or forgotten! We must together “abide in His Word” rather than the traditions of men. OK? All of His disciples “hear Him gladly” and “hang on every word that He says”—without compromise, or furious rifling through Bible pages to “prove” that Jesus didn’t mean what He said. Let’s just believe Him and obey Him together in peace.</p>
<p>You must see by now that though many do, unfortunately, rely on a form and “works” to justify themselves before the Father, whatever the scriptures say (about baptism in water, or anything else) is the Father’s application of the gift to us of His Son. It is not something “in addition” to His Beloved Son&#8230;it <em><strong>is</strong></em> His Son, the Word.</p>
<p>4. (1 Peter 3:21; Romans 6:3-5). The Apostle Peter, by inspiration of the Holy Spirit, makes this bold, unthinkable statement: “Baptism saves you.” To say that it has nothing to do with salvation would put you in opposition to Peter and the Holy Scriptures—not a good position to try to defend on the judgment day. The question is not “whether or not,” but rather <em>“how”</em> it saves you.</p>
<p>Certainly we know that the blood that was poured out during the scourgings and ultimately on the cross is the only hope that any of us have. It is very obvious that some “good work” can never justify us before the Eternal God—only the death and resurrection of the Only Begotten Son. So how can Peter (by the Holy Spirit) make such radical statements as “Baptism saves you” and “Repent and be baptized for the forgiveness of sins” and “save yourselves?”</p>
<p>The correct way to handle the Word of God is not to pretend that Peter never said these things because, after all, we know that the atonement of Jesus is what saves us—period. Remember, it was Jesus who said: “He that believes and is baptized—that person shall be saved” (Mk.16:16). Jesus, through Peter, said “Repent and be baptized” and “baptism saves you” (Acts 2:38; 1Pet.3:21).</p>
<p>It says what it says—no man has the right to ignore it or try to alter it. God is intelligent enough to “get it right.” Therefore, our job is to understand “baptism saves you” in <em><strong>light</strong></em> of the work of Jesus—not pretend that it’s not there <em><strong>because</strong></em> of the atoning work of Jesus.</p>
<p>Let me say that again. God said what He meant and meant what He said. We know the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus “saves us”—not our “works.” That is an absolute. However, if God Himself said “Baptism saves you” and “Repent and be baptized for the forgiveness of sins” and “He that believes and is baptized shall be saved”—these things are also absolutes. Our job is not to “write these off” as “surely just not so.” Our job is to understand how these things are tied into the work of Jesus. “Understand them in light of the work of Jesus, not pretend that they’re not there because of the work of Jesus.” Do you see? “All scripture is God-breathed.”</p>
<p>Peter goes on to explain how baptism saves us (it is a fact from God that somehow it’s involved). Baptism is not washing away dirt from the physical body, it is not “getting wet,” taking a bath. It is the “crying out of a good conscience towards God”—repentance and faith in Jesus expressed physically. It “saves you” (Peter reaffirms in case we missed it), “it saves you by the resurrection of Jesus.” Aha! The link between this strange thing of “immersion in water” and Jesus of Nazareth.</p>
<p>Paul explains the connection between repentance, baptism and “the resurrection of Jesus” for us in Romans 6:3-5. Here the Holy Word says clearly that “If we’ve been united with Him in death, we will certainly also be united with Him in His resurrection.” Sounds great. It is conditional, however, on being “united with Him in His death.” How does that happen, Paul? “We were, therefore, buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead we too may walk in newness of life.” The Word of God says clearly that we die to our sins (repentance), bury them, immerse them in baptism, and rise to walk in “newness of life.” Literally “born again—of water and the Spirit.” Literally “having our bodies washed with pure water,” “saved by the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit.” Submitting ourselves that we may face Him having “washed our robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb,” having “clothed ourselves with Christ in baptism” (John 3:5, Heb. 10:22, Titus 3:5, Rev. 7:13-14, Gal. 3:26-27).</p>
<p>Most would agree that there is no disagreement between the all-sufficiency of the blood of Jesus Christ and the necessity of confessing with your mouth “Jesus is Lord.” We agree it is simply an outward expression of our faith—that the Bible says is mandatory, or the Faith was not truly Faith. Likewise, there is no disagreement between the all-sufficiency of the blood of Jesus and the absolute necessity of “repenting of acts that lead to death.” Repentance is essential. Jesus said clearly: “Unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.” No man will go to heaven without repenting of his sins, changing his mind about what life is about. As Peter said, if you want to be saved, you must “repent and be baptized” (Heb. 6:1, Luke 13:3, Acts 17:30, Acts 2:38, Acts 3:19-23). Certainly repentance is nothing more and nothing less than an expression of our faith in Jesus, “placing our full weight on Jesus.” Repentance on our part is mandatory for our salvation and yet in no way minimizes what Jesus accomplished at Calvary. It is simply our expression of true faith.</p>
<p>Satan, “the father of lies,” would have you read all of these crystal clear teachings from Jesus Himself, as well as other words of the Holy Spirit, and push them out of your mind as “insignificant” or “legalism” or something worse. Before you fall prey to that, I beg you again to go back to the words of Almighty God and forget everything you’ve ever been taught in the religious world about baptism. In the fresh, exciting days of the New Church of the Book of Acts (a world unadulterated by various “kinds” of “christendom”), there is no record of any confusion about this at all! Let’s go back to that simplicity, please! What does God say it is for? Does God assign value to it other than a “simple act of obedience”? The only One who was immersed as a “simple act of obedience” (“to fulfill all righteousness”) was Jesus Christ. (Matthew 3:13-17). Surely even <em>one</em> verse would be sufficient to prompt a true Believer to act immediately to be immersed in water?</p>
<p>5. Again, as we have touched on previously, there was at no time an occasion in the Word of God where something other than immersion (such as sprinkling or pouring) was ever commanded or done as an example of “the method is unimportant,” as some teach today. And, in fact, there is an example of Paul reimmersing twelve men that had already been immersed, but with an incomplete Faith. (Acts 18:24, Acts 19:9). Think about it. Is it really worth rolling dice with your relationship with God to protect your pride?</p>
<p>6. Also, never was an infant immersed (baptized) in any instance in the Holy Word. There are no infants at all found amongst those baptized in the Scriptures, though many children were in the company of those that followed Jesus. Since the prerequisite (according to the Bible) for baptism is to believe and repent—an infant could not possibly have been Biblically baptized. And the examples in the book of Acts certainly do not show anything of the kind. If that is what Jesus and the apostles had taught (that infants were to be baptized) we would see long lines of children to be baptized forming in the book of Acts, the historical record. Rather, “Those who <em>believed</em> his message (about Jesus as the Savior and the Lord of Heaven and Earth) were immersed, and about three thousand were added to their number that day” (Acts 2:41). As for the children, the truth is that Jesus said that “you must become like a little child” in order to go to heaven. The children are just fine (as can be demonstrated with a number of other scriptures) without a religious ritual that we might do on their behalf. Any infant that can be “cut to the heart,” repent, put their full weight on Jesus and “call on the name of the Lord” is a candidate for baptism.</p>
<p>7. Probably an example that will be helpful as you make your decision to risk that opposition of the religious world (it seems that Jesus had that problem too!) to be immersed in water, a helpful illustration, might be the conversion of the Apostle Paul.</p>
<p>In Acts 9:1-9 Saul/Paul saw Jesus Christ as a glorious light. He was blinded and cried out “Who are you, Lord?” The answer was: “I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting.” Paul knew He was “Lord”—it seemed rather obvious at the time. He certainly believed Him to be the Son of God and obviously raised from the dead at this point. He fasted penitently without food or water for three full days. By anyone’s definition, of all people, Paul “believed” at this point. Paul recognized Him as the indisputable “Lord” and called Him so with his mouth. <em>Surely</em> he’s a Christian—because he believed in Jesus. Virtually no religious group around would consider a man with that kind of experience and faith as yet an “unbeliever.” True? Ask your “preacher.” Virtually none would consider any man with this testimony a non-Christian.</p>
<p>Later, in Acts 22:6-16, Paul is retelling the story of his conversion to a crowd of unbelievers. Paul says that God sent Ananias to him to tell him what he must do. Paul quotes Ananias (by the Holy Spirit’s words) as saying “Saul—what one are you waiting for? Get up, be baptized (immersed) washing away your sins, calling on His Name!” He was not yet a Christian! Note this carefully: A man can believe with all his heart that Jesus is risen from the dead. He can know for sure that Jesus is Lord. He can even fast and pray for his sins for three days—<strong>AND NOT BE A CHRISTIAN. </strong>Some of you may fall into that category&#8230;still a non-Christian, though you have had possibly years of christian experience.</p>
<p>Paul believed. He confessed the Lordship of the Risen One with his lips. And yet his sins were not washed away (according to God Himself). He was not a Christian—He was still in his sins, even though he had actually seen Jesus and called Him “Lord.” “Saul—what one are you waiting for? Get up, be baptized (immersed) washing away your sins, calling on His Name!” As Jesus Himself said: “Not all who confess with their mouth ‘Lord, Lord’ will go to heaven” (Matthew 7:21-23). Please drop all prejudice or defensiveness and reconsider! It surely can’t be worth being wrong, even for the sake of pride or family. The stakes are too high!</p>
<p>And now the key question of all of this:</p>
<h2 class="h2_body">At What Instant Is A Person Saved?</h2>
<p>The primary reason that all of this seems to be so traumatic is that man has taken apart the act of making covenant with his God and disassembled it in a way that God never intended. Man has wrecked the simplicity of entering into a Marriage Covenant with Jesus Christ in such a way that only God’s Spirit can interpret and apply the Truths previously mentioned to the jumbled mess of a splintered christendom today, and show us what to do next.</p>
<p>The question of “when” a person actually “becomes” a Christian in a <em>“technical”</em> way is a question that reveals the misunderstanding of the one who asked it of the nature of Salvation itself. Being “born of God” will never be of “natural descent, of human decision, or of a husband’s will”—to our dismay and God’s Glory. “Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything: what counts is a New Creation.” I mean to say (by inserting these verses here) that meeting the Person of Jesus Christ, having an encounter with a Resurrected Lord, and being <em>therefore</em> “translated from the Kingdom of Darkness to the Kingdom of the Beloved Son” will never happen by knowing all of the technical verses about it. It is either an encounter with the Living Godhead, personally, and truly—or it is a counterfeit. The technicalities are not the issue. God has a habit of blowing up our great cerebral achievements anyway, historically speaking. (For example, Jn.7:45-52; Acts 2:13-16; 10:44-11:18; etc.)</p>
<p>A close friend of mine came in from out of state a few years ago to be married in her home town. In all of the excitement, she and her spouse-to-be had forgotten to get the blood tests and the marriage license. Now, the State has a “book” that spells out what it takes to be legitimately married, and they had taken some liberties due to this “oversight”. Because the sequence of the “book” had been violated, a big problem had resulted. At what point are they married? Is it at the moment the preacher says “I now pronounce you man and wife?” Well, maybe not, since there was no “authority invested in him by the State” to perform the ceremony without a license. The governor of the State would be positive that they were not married after the church ceremony. Well, though, doesn’t the heart, the intent, count for anything? Is it marriage when “a man shall leave his father and mother and cleave to his wife” as a “heart” issue, or is there a need to obey the laws of the land? The preacher, and the State, reached different conclusions. Or is it marriage when it is consummated in the act of the “two becoming one flesh?” What about the soldier boy that gets whisked away overseas before the two physically come together? In all fifty states an annulment (“a judicial declaration that no valid marriage ever existed between the two parties in question”) can be declared in situations where the marriage is never “consummated.” Were they ever married? At what instant are they married? Is it when the license is filled out that the marriage is truly a marriage? But wait! If the license isn’t mailed in a certain period of time, the marriage is invalid. Or is it? As you can see, all of the trauma of “at what instant is a person married” only even becomes a question when the “rule book” is violated. But, oh what a problem! Can you go on a $100.00/night honeymoon that has already been paid for, or not? Would you be in bed with someone who you are not married to, since no one with “authority invested in him” to perform the ceremony had yet joined them? What a trauma.</p>
<p>And likewise, AT WHAT INSTANT IS A PERSON SAVED? Only because of man’s ignoring God’s Ways has the question even come up! If we would instantly “at midnight” respond to the teaching about Jesus with “here’s water, what hinders me from being baptized?” we would never have to ask “at what instant,” in the midst of “calling on the Name of the Lord,” is the person saved. It is a ridiculous question and unnecessary if we respond (as the now-married couple wished they had) out of the Truth and harmony and Spirit of the Word of God. If man had not confused the whole issue by fooling with the making of a “covenant” with God (by separating the giving of one’s life to Jesus, from repentance, and from baptism by weeks or months or years) there would be no such questions about “at what instant is a person saved” ever raised. Again, we have created the dilemma by breaking the covenant-making experience into little pieces and separating them by time, as was absolutely never the teaching or the case in the Scriptures.</p>
<p>The illustration previously offered, “at exactly what instant is a couple married,” cannot be fully resolved. Nor can this more Eternal issue. Cry out to Him! Get on your knees and appeal to Him from a good and sincere heart to translate your life from the corruptible to the Eternal. Tell Jesus of your selfishness, your self-indulgence, your pride and ask Him for a new heart. Our response to His love for us is to offer all at once to Him, as a sonnet of our love and thanksgiving. Put the “Ring” of water baptism on as a seal of the Covenant. Let the Lord of Hosts baptize you in His Spirit.</p>
<p>In summary, we get ourselves in a fix the moment we elect to separate the Marriage consummation in a technical way, rather than simply plunging into the whole counsel and love and promises of God. If we elect to follow men’s denominational traditions instead of God’s Ways, from then on we must “pound a square peg into a round hole” in our attempt to answer questions on these subjects. Let’s simply respond as God has called us to respond. Let’s all have the honesty and guts and humility to swim upstream against what we’ve thought (or even taught) and tell others that are followers of Jesus or anxious to become so, the truth about WHAT GOD SAYS ABOUT WATER BAPTISM. It is a very freeing alternative! And an urgent matter&#8230;</p>
<p>And <em>of course</em> it’s tough! Our battle is not with flesh and blood and merely “understanding” of Bible verses, but with principalities and powers, according to Paul. If God values anything, Satan will desperately try to soft-sell or pervert it! While in western India, some brothers and I discovered how true this is. There, to tell those in your village (or those in law enforcement) that you are a Christian will seldom have consequences. Yet to be baptized will result in being severely ostracized and often imprisoned.</p>
<p>Another man, once a Jewish atheist, and now a teacher of the Truth of God in Jesus Christ on several continents, adds his testimony to this. He also has seen what seems to be supernatural opposition to baptism in water that goes beyond logic. He has seen again and again those of his own Jewish heritage telling their families and their rabbi that they believe that Jesus, Y’shua, is the Messiah and that they have given their lives to Him. This, he says, is often met with “That’s nice.” But when they say they have been baptized in water, great and violent fury and disinheritance takes place almost inevitably. Frequently an actual funeral is held for the baptized Believer.</p>
<p>No doubt you too will suffer the retribution of Satan and prideful, fearful men as you respond to the Truths of God’s Word about baptism. It is a privilege. Count it all joy, and don’t shrink back, procrastinate, or compromise one tiny bit. If you follow Jesus in Truth, you will always leave all to do so (Luke 9:57-62, 14:33)!</p>
<p>A few beautiful pictures, before we part, might show us something of God’s heart in calling us to be immersed in water. In 1Corinthians, chapter 10, God gives us the picture of the baptism into the sea and the cloud (water and the Holy Spirit, John 3:5, Acts 2:38, Titus 3:5). This is representative of our victory over all of the enemies of God. The armies of bondage and (“Egyptian”) slavery to selfishness, lust and the world system gallop after us when we choose to give our lives to our Savior and Lord. These are DROWNED under the ocean of God’s grace, just as they were in the Red Sea.</p>
<p>This is water baptism’s purpose—to drown our enemies and God’s enemies, amazingly, both in type and in reality! If you can explain how the Lord’s Supper is both symbolic and supernatural at the same time (1Cor.11:29-30; 10:16-22; Jn.6:53), then you’ve got a shot at understanding this!</p>
<p>A similar picture is in Romans 6. Here, we have made a covenant with God to die to sin (repentance) and that sin is then buried under the water of baptism. We now rise to walk in newness of life. If we’ve been buried in baptism, we’ll rise in the same resurrection life that He rose into (vs. 5). Sounds good to me!</p>
<p>In 1 Peter 3, God paints for us the picture of all of the mountaintops of our sins being forever buried under the water of baptism. As surely as the wickedness of Noah’s day was totally immersed, our corruption in the “old man” is buried with Christ. Then, the dove brought back an olive branch representing a whole new world, a “new creation!” In Him, if we’re truly converted, we “Taste the Powers of the coming Age.” In Him, we receive a “downpayment guaranteeing our inheritance,” the Holy Spirit of Almighty God filling us with the Life of the Eternal Kingdom, and the Ages to come! (Read prayerfully Eph.1:13-14, 18-20; Rom.8:9-11; Acts 2:38-39; Jn.3:5,8; Ezek.36:24-27; Jer.31:31-34; Heb.6:5; Jn.17:22, 7:38-39). This is just simple, fundamental, undeniable, biblical christianity. What a joy! Thank your God for this opportunity!</p>
<p>In Galatians 3, Paul states that our Sonship, our Faith and Baptism are all inseparable. The picture is given by God that as we are baptized, we are “clothed” with God’s precious Son, Jesus. From this moment on, He sees only Jesus (as we’ve “hidden our life” in Him) when He looks down on us.</p>
<p>Now, if you have “ears to hear,” you have been given a very clear opportunity to see, understand and obey the Lord Jesus Christ on this matter of immersion in water. I don’t claim to understand everything about the subject of Baptism. Not at all. I can only pray, along with you and an army of others, that God will shed Light on this in the days to come that all of us might be fully equipped for battle with our only real enemy, the devil. I must say that if you have not yet been immersed in water, and you truly desire to fully walk with your Lord, you now have more than enough cause to lose a lot of sleep until you have prayerfully yielded yourself to all that God has held out for you.</p>
<p>Almost always, the battle is not waged against “what the Bible says about baptism,” per se. Here’s an observation that you can test against your own heart. Nearly always the one who refuses immersion in water is in one of two situations. Either they have never been shown God’s heart about it in the Word of God, or he or she has never truly repented of their fears and desires for the world’s goodies or men’s approval. Baptism itself is seldom the hangup.</p>
<p>Are you ready to “eagerly accept the good news about Jesus,” surrender your life to Him and cry out “Here’s water. What are we waiting for?” As the song goes, “I only want to see you there!” Let’s go all the Way, my friends and brothers.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="plus-one-wrap"><g:plusone href="http://www.indywatchman.com/hearing/edens-bridge-el-shaddai/"></g:plusone></div><p>Grace has a way of softening a heart. I have been a Christian for many years, and serving the Lord of all creation is not a thing I am ashamed of, but there is a thing I am ashamed of, and that is that when I look into the face of the Lamb, I am not like Him. Every time I am reminded of my short coming I hang my head, and I am ashamed. I have learned that when this occurs that He removes a little piece of that old stony heart. Have you ever been by yourself and come face-to-face with your shame? Our selfishness becomes so apparent when we see the beauty of His perfection. The contrast is very plain, and very humbling. To see Him in all His Glory is to share in His perfection and receive one more installment towards His likeness. I look forward to that day when I receive that <strong>final</strong> installment and stand before Him clothed with a garment from His own wardrobe. I know that I have the earnest of that right now, but <strong>that day</strong> will be Glory. Enjoy the short music video, and see <em>yourself</em> before the Lamb.</p>
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<div class="postmetadata">Usually I post the things my friends write as a clip in the right column of this blog, but this post by MorielCarol deserve a little more space. I have friends who endorse and follow the two people mentioned, and I pray that they will read this. The Bible plainly directs us to reject those who have been found to be &#8220;false,&#8221; but so many refuse to do this in rebellion to their professed Lord.</div>
<div class="postmetadata">Steve Blackwell</div>
<div class="postmetadata"><strong>JANUARY 20TH, 2008<br />
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<h2><a title="Permanent Link to Paul Cain, R. T. Kendell, and Friends" rel="bookmark" href="http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/discernment/church-issues/nar/paul-cain-r-t-kendell-and-friends">Paul Cain, R. T. Kendell, and Friends</a></h2>
<p class="bodytextSmall"><em>by James Jacob Prasch</em></p>
<h3 class="bodytextSmall"><span style="color: #333399;"><span class="headingSmall">Where Is All The Big Talk Now? </span></span></h3>
<p class="bodytextSmall">In late summer of 1990, the late John Wimber brought the Kansas City Prophets to Great Britain for a series of hyped-up meetings at London’s Docklands Arena. The agenda included Mike Bickel, who in direct defiance to the plain teaching of the Word of God, voiced the opinion shared by false prophet Rick Joyner “that a prophet can be partly right and partly wrong in what he predicts”. This of course runs contrary of the biblical criteria of a true prophet in Deuteronomy 18. Among others, Rick Joyner, Bickel himself, Gerald Coates, Cindy Jacobs, Juanita Bynum, and Benny Hinn, along with a wide host of many more,  would all by biblical definition be among the false prophets Jesus warned in the last days to deceive the elect. All have made time specific prophetic predictions in the name of the Lord that failed to transpire.</p>
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<p class="bodytextSmall">The fiasco at the Dockland’s Arena cheered on by Elim’s Colin Dye, Gerald Coates, Sandy Millar, and Alpha course guru, Nicky Gumbel, was the harbinger of the counterfeit moves of God from Toronto and Pensacola that failed to produce promised revivals and have left the church in a more deteriorated state than it already had been in according to the statistical evidence of  Barna Reports in the USA and the Brierley Reports in the UK. Before Toronto and Pensacola, the first stage of these hyped-up deceptions, that categorically failed to deliver what they promised, was with the Kansas City Prophets.</p>
<p class="bodytextSmall">When warned that Kansas City Prophet Bob Jones was immoral, Wimber retorted “We know, that is why we only let him pray for leaders!” When confronted with their false prophecies The Kansas City False Prophets were defended by those who described them as “pipes with two open ends spewing both truth and error, sometimes God’s speaks from them and sometimes the devil.” In fact, there are clairvoyants with familiar spirits prophesying by demonic power who have a better track record than many of those giving false prophetic predictions within the body of Christ today.</p>
<p class="bodytextSmall">No one can forget the outrageous predictions of supernatural revival that was to come from Britain and spread into Germany in October of 1990, according to the Kansas City Prophets except those latter Rain (false) teachers who made and promoted the false predictions and now don’t want to be held accountable. In fact, since 1990 more mosques have been built in Britain than churches, the Mormon cult has become the fastest growing so called “Christian” movement, and Islam has become the fastest growing institutionalized religion.</p>
<p class="bodytextSmall">The new arch bishop of Canterbury has ordained homosexuals and is a member of a Druid sect, and UK church attendance has nose dived incredibly. Morris Cerullo was exposed on national TV by the crown coroner, Sir Montague Levine, as culpable in the death of an epileptic who drowned in her bath after ceasing to take medication when Cerullo pronounced her healed. Cerullo was also found guilty of all 4 charges against him for unethical fund-raising by the UK Advertising Standards Council. Yet all the while, Cerullo continued to be promoted by Kensington Temple and the Elim Movement.</p>
<p class="bodytextSmall">Since the promised revival, the public legacy of church scandal has escalated unabated, with the spill over from the USA, where TBN leader Paul Crouch was exposed for paying $435,000 in a legal settlement with a hush clause regarding allegations of homosexual soliciting by Crouch. Not only have the prophecies of the Kansas City Prophets failed to materialize, but the diametric opposite has happened.   Yet yourself, Colin Dye, Gerald Coates, Sandy Miller, and Nicky Gumbel all flocked to bring your flocks under the spiritual influence of Paul Cain and The Kansas City Prophets.</p>
<p class="bodytextSmall">The openly Gnostic hermeneutics employed by Jack Deere in defending the “Joel’s Army” false teaching of Wimber and the Kansas City Prophets was astounding. Responsible exegesis, context, and co-text were thrown out the window by Deere. Instead, using a mystical subjective Gnostic revelation, Nebuchadnezzar’s Babylonian army, and the locusts, which according to Revelation 9 are the demon cohorts of Antichrist, were redefined as the “triumphant church”. Cain himself openly acknowledged his mentor to be William Branham, a heretical maniac who claimed to be the angel of <a class="lbsBibleRef" href="http://bible.logos.com/passage/nasb/Revelation%203.15" target="_blank">Revelation 3:15</a> and prophesied “The Trinity Is Of The Devil &#8211; Thus Saith The Lord”.  Paul Cain also reiterated the old “Manifest Sons” doctrine once rejected as heretical by the Assemblies of God and cited his indebtedness to A. A. Allan, the con man who claimed the supernatural appearance of oil on his hands, only to die a drunkard’s death. But that made little difference to R. T. Kendall.</p>
<p class="bodytextSmall">Shortly after the Dockland’s event, billed by Wimber and his supporters at Holy Trinity Brompton as “equipping the saints”, Kansas City Prophet Bob Jones was exposed in gross sexual immorality. Wimber closed the conference hailing Paul Cain, the patriarch of the Apostles and Prophets movement, as “saving the best wine for last”.</p>
<p class="bodytextSmall">Despite warnings that the over-realized eschatology of the Kansas City Prophets was not biblical and their view of apostolic and prophetic authority was alien to what the Word of God teaches of such ministries and bears no resemblance to any scriptural understanding of charismata or Pentecost, R. T. Kendell, heir to the pulpit of Dr. Martin Lloyd Jones, extolled Paul Cain as his great and mighty conference partner. Kendell also departed from the biblical foundations once bequeathed by Dr. Martin Lloyd Jones and took London’s West Minster Chapel into the laughing and drunken deception.</p>
<p class="bodytextSmall">Now that the false prophecies of the Kansas City (false) Prophets have long been proven false, the truth about their spiritual father Paul Cain has emerged. His own sons in the ministry now acknowledge that Cain is a drunken sex pervert. His alcoholism and homosexuality are now public knowledge, but should  not come as a surprise to anyone who has followed the antics of this spiritually deranged and pathetic figure.  The Latter Rain prophetically promised by Cain and Bickel never fell, but Wimber’s best wine was indeed saved for last and Paul Cain, the homosexual false prophet, got drunk on it.</p>
<p class="bodytextSmall">With his partnership with Paul Cain, and his support for the failed revival promised by the   Toronto hype artistry,  R.T.  Kendell, in the opinion of many, subverted the pulpit of  Dr. Martin Lloyd Jones. Dr. Martin Lloyd Jones, like us was himself a moderate charismatic. R. T. Kendall tragically mislead the congregation into the very directionDr. Martin Lloyd Jones warned against and tried to protect his flock from. Having followed a false revival that failed to deliver the goods, and now having aligned himself with his ‘great prophet of God’ Paul Cain, publicly revealed as a drunk and a homosexual, we would like to ask R.T. Kendell a question &#8211; <strong>Where is all of your big talk now? </strong></p>
<p class="bodytextSmall">Now that your credibility has been self-destroyed, why should anyone pay any more attention to you now?</p>
<p class="bodytextSmall">The jury is no longer out, R.T. Kendell. Your Toronto Experience was not a revival but a con and a lot of abject hype, and your Paul Cane is not a true prophet, but a drunkard  and a perverse deviate who enjoys sex with other men whom you had preaching to the flock of God from your pulpit, at your invitation, and at your endorsement and behest. How can there be the authentic revival that the church so desperately needs when all we have is the spiritual lunacy of false shepherds lauding the failed prophecy of personally immoral false prophets and propounding the bankrupt theology of virtual rogues?</p>
<p class="bodytextSmall">A number of solid Christians felt the heritage inherited from Dr. Martin Lloyd Jones and Campbell Morgan had been betrayed by you and left that once revered congregation in a state of disgust once it had been wrecked by what they considered to be havoc thanks to yourself and your so called “prophet” Paul Cain.</p>
<p class="bodytextSmall">Now that his own protégés publicly admit what Paul Cain is, are you now going to show the courage, integrity, and humility to admit that you were mislead and were used of the enemy, Satan, to mislead others? Or are you going to try to do the kind of whitewash job God’s Word warns us to expect from people seemingly of your ilk in Ezekiel 13 who try to whitewash over the false prophecies and immorality of their false prophets?</p>
<p><span class="bodytextSmall">I hope it will be the former. But given the sad legacy that you left at Westminster Chapel before you left for Key Largo, Florida in the estimation of a number of former members, I expect it will be the latter. For your sake, I pray to God I will be proved wrong. <img style="border: 0pt none; vertical-align: top;" src="http://www.moriel.org/MorielArchive/wp-content/themes/8some/images/Logo_40x45.gif" alt="" /><br />
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s hard to imagine a big 200 pound man needing help, but he can be just as helpless as a little child, when it comes to the inner workings of the psyche and the essential needs of the spirit. We are as little lambs when it comes to our vulnerability, and the most help can [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="plus-one-wrap"><g:plusone href="http://www.indywatchman.com/church/we-can-all-use-a-little-help/"></g:plusone></div><p><img src="file:///C:/DOCUME~1/COMPAQ~1/LOCALS~1/Temp/moz-screenshot.jpg" alt="" /><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-313" title="34602_called_alongside" src="http://www.indywatchman.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/34602_called_alongside-300x221.jpg" alt="34602_called_alongside" width="300" height="221" />It&#8217;s hard to imagine a big 200 pound man needing help, but he can be just as helpless as a little child, when it comes to the inner workings of the psyche and the essential needs of the spirit. We are as little lambs when it comes to our vulnerability, and the most help can come from the simplest words, like: <em>&#8220;be strong and of good courage&#8221;</em> or <em>&#8220;Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father&#8217;s good pleasure to give you the kingdom&#8221;</em>(Luke 12:32). These words can carry a powerful medicine, especially when spoken by the Father who care for us and loves us.<br />
Encouragement is what we all need to move forward in faith; a faith that has as its reward the greatest victory the mind and heart can conceive of. Encouragement and endurance are key ingredients in the life of the Church, because it is not how we start that matters, but how we finish. So, press on my friend, in a living faith, not the rotten fruit of wishful thinking, and know that the Lord goes before us, and is also our rear guard. If He is for us, who or what, can be against us?<br />
Steve Blackwell</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[There seems to be a smell coming from this coalition and it is emanating from the area of Mark Driscoll.  I know that there are many who support Mark and his filthiness, and that is O.K., that is their prerogative, but it is also the prerogative of others to warn the &#8220;unsuspecting&#8221; away from the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="plus-one-wrap"><g:plusone href="http://www.indywatchman.com/uncategorized/the-gospel-coalition/"></g:plusone></div><p><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-305" title="stink detector" src="http://www.indywatchman.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/stink2-300x283.jpg" alt="stink detector" width="300" height="283" />There seems to be a smell coming from this <a href="http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/conferences/2009#t=speakers">coalition</a> and it is emanating from the area of Mark Driscoll.  I know that there are many who support Mark and his filthiness, and that is O.K., that is their prerogative, but it is also the prerogative of others to warn the &#8220;unsuspecting&#8221; away from the filth. It also says much about those who associate with the man. What does the purity and cleanliness of the Gospel have to do with filth, can both filth and living water come from the same well or Gospel Coalition? The Gospel has been wrapped in many different outfits in the past by those who would try and make it into something other than what it is. Is this really that hard for people to see? This is the obvious stuff. There is no deception here, this is blatant rebellion, and accepted by the others attending this &#8220;<a href="http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/conferences/2009#t=speakers">coalition</a>.&#8221; I find it hard to believe that these other &#8220;preachers&#8221; are not picking up the smell. This truly is the end times.</p>
<p>The definition of coalition:</p>
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<li><em>An organization of people (or countries) involved in a pact or treaty.</em></li>
<li><em> The state of being combined into one body.</em></li>
<li><em> The union of diverse things into one body or form or group; the growing together of parts.</em></li>
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<p>Maybe we need to look closer at the definition to try and get an understanding of what is going on in the minds of those involved. Could it be that it really is the <em>&#8220;union of diverse things.&#8221;</em> So much is being said about unity these day; look at those giving the invocation at the inauguration of Obama. The whole pot is getting stirred up together, why, no one will be able to tell the difference, and really I am beginning to think that no one really even cares. Yet, all these preachers will come away preaching the Gospel, and maybe shaking their foot because of something they stepped in. Seriously, I think you have to be spiritually numb not to pick up on this one. Are we suppose to take them serious?</p>
<p>Let the Mark Driscoll supporters come, and I know they will, just don&#8217;t step on the carpet.</p>
<p>I also find it amusing that Mark is the only one in the line-up that is not smiling, could this be a &#8220;tell?&#8221;</p>
<p>Steve Blackwell</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today I saw a bumper sticker that read &#8220;So Many Christians, So Few Lions.&#8221; I had pulled into a McDonald&#8217;s for lunch and happened to come along side a nice looking Mercedes automobile with this sticker on the bumper, so I pulled in beside it. I decided to wait for a few minutes to see [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="plus-one-wrap"><g:plusone href="http://www.indywatchman.com/uncategorized/christian-hatred-getting-worse/"></g:plusone></div><p><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-292" title="christians_fed_to_lions" src="http://www.indywatchman.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/christians_fed_to_lions-300x182.jpg" alt="christians_fed_to_lions" width="300" height="182" />Today I saw a bumper sticker that read &#8220;<strong>So Many Christians, So Few Lions</strong>.&#8221; I had pulled into a McDonald&#8217;s for lunch and happened to come along side a nice looking Mercedes automobile with this sticker on the bumper, so I pulled in beside it. I decided to wait for a few minutes to see if the driver would return. I wanted to ask him if he really felt that much hatred for Christians that he could actually kill them. After a little while I decided I could not wait any longer and went into the restaurant for lunch. I looked around at the crowd to see if I could pick out the person who had such disgust with followers of Jesus, but I was way off. As people left I kept looking over my shoulder to see who might own the car. I discounted the young people and the blue collar crowd, but saw several women and men who might fit the bill. A couple ladies left, but they didn&#8217;t own the car. Then a middle aged man, wearing what looked like a surgeons outfit, complete with a head scarf displaying some NFL logo, headed in that direction. I had not suspected him because the outfit he wore projected a different message, a message of trust and healing and care; boy was I fooled.</p>
<p>How many times have we put our trust in individuals who, if they knew we were Christians, would gladly feed us to the lions. Many today are proud of their anti-Christian associations and even promote their anger and hatred over the internet and with placards, and billboards, and bumper stickers, even in Indiana. Some day that hatred will reach a fever pitch, and Jews and Christians will become like varmints, to be destroyed. It may be hard to believe, but it is true, and it may be sooner than we think; <strong>are you ready!</strong></p>
<p>Steve Blackwell</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="plus-one-wrap"><g:plusone href="http://www.indywatchman.com/uncategorized/thoughts-about-the-shack-please-take-time-to-read/"></g:plusone></div><p>This is an e-mail that I received from a very well respected friend, who in turn received it from a friend, and has given permission for me to post it here,  concerning the book &#8220;The Shack.&#8221; I have never read the book but Have researched it enough to know that it is a successful product of end time deception. I have persuaded others not read it, but was never able to tell them precisely why. Please take the time to read this, since the book is very popular, and if you haven&#8217;t heard of it, you probably will quite soon.</p>
<p>Blessings,<br />
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Steve Blackwell</span></p>
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<p><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-243" title="the_shack_cover" src="http://www.indywatchman.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/the_shack_cover-199x300.jpg" alt="the_shack_cover" width="199" height="300" />I hesitate to share the thoughts I have about the book, &#8220;The Shack&#8221;, for many reasons. I know that I am a loser, a nobody, and I don&#8217;t claim to be some great Bible scholar. I don&#8217;t see myself better that those I may disagree with, but do see the need to share my heart. I hope by sharing it that I don&#8217;t offend anyone, or affect our relationship.  I feel like one of those mole things that sticks its head out of the hole at Chuck E. Cheese that you hit with the hammer.  I will stick my head out to get hit, if it can help others.   It seems few are willing to say anything negative anymore about almost anything &#8220;Christian&#8221; unless it is something they have already come out of.<br />
Romans 14 teaches us not to &#8220;dialogue&#8221; about differences, but to let &#8220;each man be persuaded in his own mind.&#8221;  So it is not my heart to get you to my point of view or to win an argument, but to just remind us all to go back to the simplicity of the Scriptures.</p>
<p>Over the last 3 years as many are re-examining truth, and looking everywhere for it, there is an incredible openness to almost anything that is different from the norm. I too have gone this route in search for answers, only to find myself given to depression, confusion, and even more questions that don&#8217;t bring Christ-likeness in me and others. While on this search I read many different kinds of Christian books, and I found my life to be summed up with one word- DEFEAT!  Things that I had not struggled with for nearly 20 years crept back into my life, while I was devouring many &#8220;got to read&#8221; books.  As I look back at my years at Kent, I see many mistakes that were made, and much immaturity; however, after 3 years, and many rabbit trails later, I find myself in the last 7 months or so given to the Word of God anew.</p>
<p>As I have studied and sought the Father&#8217;s heart over the last 7 months, I cannot seem to get away from many of the truths that I believed in during the Kent days.  I am not talking about the outward, religious &#8220;Charity&#8221; influence, or imbalances on evangelism, but the simple gospel of &#8220;forsake all&#8221;,&#8221; fear God&#8221;, and &#8220;few there be that find it&#8221;.  To sum up what is being renewed in me, here are some things that I am seeing again, and am walking in:<br />
<strong>1.</strong> Life is short, and we are going to have to stand before a Holy God and give an account for our lives.<br />
<strong> 2</strong>. Satan is real,<strong> and deception is <span style="text-decoration: underline;">everywhere.</span> We must be careful because we could be lead astray and end up lost.</strong><br />
<strong> 3.</strong> I see now, as clear as ever, that Satan has twisted the Gospel message of repentance <strong>AND</strong> Faith, to just Faith &#8211; a &#8220;Faith&#8221; that doesn&#8217;t call one to forsake all and turn from sin.<br />
<strong> 4.</strong> The message of &#8220;enduring unto the end&#8221; is waning more and more.<br />
<strong> 5.</strong> The truth of the Scriptures tells us to &#8220;<strong>continue</strong> in the <strong> faith</strong>&#8220;, and that we must &#8220;<em>through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God</em>.&#8221; (Acts 14:22); and,  if we don&#8217;t, we will be separated from the Father forever.  This is being diluted not only among my friends, but the majority of believers in this nation.<br />
<strong>6.</strong> The fact that Jesus said, &#8220;Few there be that find it&#8221; <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=47&amp;chapter=7&amp;verse=14&amp;version=9&amp;context=verse" target="_blank"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">(Matthew 7:14)</span></strong></a><strong> </strong> is rarely ever shared, and thus the view of what it means to know Jesus is being watered down.<br />
<strong>7.</strong> I see an over-emphasis on &#8220;God is love&#8221;, to the point of only showing one side of the coin. And the &#8220;love&#8221; spoken about is a sugar daddy, enabling type of love.  This false representation is found in cute little sayings like, &#8220;God hates the sin, and loves the sinner&#8221;, <strong> a saying that comes from Ghandi by the way. </strong><br />
<strong>8.</strong> I see lots of <strong>Psychology</strong> laced throughout many Christian writings which sounds true, but just isn&#8217;t founded in the Scriptures.<br />
<strong>9.</strong> A love that doesn&#8217;t warn of judgment to come, in a way that produces the fear of God.<br />
<strong>10.</strong> Separation from the world is ridiculed, and holiness and obedience are called legalism.<br />
<strong>11</strong>. The message of victory over sin (in this life) is just not emphasized, and that failure to have victory over sin means &#8220;<em>a certain fearful judgment to come.&#8221;</em><br />
<strong>12</strong>.  The message of &#8220;<em>work out your own salvation with fear and trembling&#8221;</em> <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=57&amp;chapter=2&amp;verse=12&amp;version=9&amp;context=verse" target="_blank"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">(Philippians 2:12</span></strong></a>&#8221; is absent, or has been replaced by unbiblical statements like, &#8220;God loves you unconditionally, no matter what you do&#8230; you can never be lost.&#8221;<br />
<strong>13.</strong> The paradigm shifting message in &#8220;Ten shekels and a shirt&#8221; has been forgotten.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen many Christians move toward modern-day, Neo-Christian thoughts.</p>
<p>Such as:  (my definitions)</p>
<p><strong>Christian Post- Modernism</strong><strong>- </strong> I.E. &#8211; We really can&#8217;t know with any certainty what the Bible means, but can only have our interpretations, which can be wrong.  Thus, we must re-examine everything from scratch and be willing to, if need be, not believe in the virgin birth  (for an example of this, see <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Velvet Elvis</span> by Rob Bell)<br />
<strong>Christian Universalism</strong> &#8211; Those in other religions can know Jesus without even understanding that they know Him. Souls can &#8220;know&#8221; God outside of Christ.<br />
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</strong><strong>Ultimate Reconciliation</strong> (U.R.)- All men will eventually be with the Father, and the Lake of fire is not a place that torments men forever.</p>
<p>I hate to even say it in fear that some will say, &#8220;That&#8217;s just Jason being the old Jason.&#8221;  I hate to sound like some stuck- in- the- mud Baptist preacher. However, these are serious false teachings with major eternal implications.  Having watched my own brother (who is the one responsible for leading me to Christ) go through these doctrines<strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"> on his road to totally denying the existence of Jesus</span></strong> and the Scriptures, I see the dangers of this more than ever. I have seen what it has produced in his life! These thought patterns are dangerous to the mind, and they are leading many sincere people down a path of questioning Scripture &#8211; in essence saying, &#8220;Hath God said?&#8221; while using <strong> human reasoning</strong> when interpreting Scripture and not the Holy Spirit.</p>
<p>As I have read many of the books being recommended over the last 3 years with an open mind, I have only seen negative fruit in <strong>myself</strong> and those who read them.  The Lord has been near me for a long season now, and it started with a renewed<strong> fear of God</strong>- something<strong> I NEVER RECEIVED FROM <span style="text-decoration: underline;">ANY</span> OF THESE BOOKS.</strong> Yes, they are written well and make good points, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">but they only point out the problem,</span> without offering real solutions. When they do give solutions, they are rooted in <strong>Psychology</strong> and human reasoning, not founded on the Word of God. These type of books tap into emotions; and, simple-minded believers, once in an emotional state, can be swallowed up by any teaching that comes at them.</p>
<p>Now in regards to the book <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Shack</span>.</strong></p>
<p>I have spent 35 to 40 hours studying, researching, and watching many interviews with the author Paul Young.  <span style="text-decoration: underline;">May God have mercy on me if anything in this article is inaccurate</span>, or in a spirit that is not from Jesus.  The research here is the best I can do with a wife, 4 kids, and a job.  If light comes to me that is different later on, I will gladly stick my foot in my mouth <img src='http://www.indywatchman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .  I will not judge Paul Young, his motives, or assume anything about him.</p>
<p><strong>Please understand that I am not saying anything negative about the man who wrote this book,</strong> Paul Young.  He seems to be kind, humble, and in many ways a gifted man.</p>
<p>First I would like to commend Young for attempting to tackle the tough task of answering the many questions that we all have about human suffering. He also addresses many other <strong>good points</strong> on the New Covenant, religiosity, and other misrepresentations of God. The picture of the shack reminds me of Pink Floyd&#8217;s &#8220;The Wall&#8221; and how we hide behind the walls we build so as to not get hurt again.  It is a compelling story and gripping. Young was obviously burned by some false representation of Christianity, along with many of us, and his attempt to comfort the millions in this state is admirable. I especially like the over all theme of the book. Relationship over dead religion. <strong>The most redeemable part of the book is the emphasis of God being near, and one in whom you can have &#8220;face to face&#8221; fellowship with.  This is important in light of hundreds of years of a false God misrepresented to people from religious leaders.  Many of us have felt God afar off because of this, and this book does a good job showing His desire to have intimate relationship with us.  I admit that this could be helpful to those of us coming out of this &#8220;far off angry God&#8221; mindset.</strong></p>
<p>Nevertheless I have concerns with the other side of God not being fairly represented in this book.  Most if not all of the encounters that people had with God <span style="text-decoration: underline;">in the scriptures</span> included a <strong>great fear</strong> and trembling, and in almost every case the person <strong>fell on their face</strong> and worshiped God when they realized how powerful and Holy He was.  They said &#8220;woe is me&#8221; I&#8217;m unclean&#8221; &#8220;what would you have me to do?&#8221; or were so terrified and in awe that they didn&#8217;t say anything. Maybe this is the reason that the book is so received among the world.  Many don&#8217;t want to face God as the Judge. And just because &#8220;in the past&#8221; this judge side was over emphasized, to a fault of not presenting God as Love, doesn&#8217;t now mean we totally forsake it.  God is Love, and God is one to be feared.  Both need to be in the portrait we paint or we are in danger of falsely presenting to the world only one side of our Holy God.</p>
<p>A further example of this is Young&#8217;s blog on his website where he transcribes what seems to be a conversation with God since the book was written. It resemble to much a a <span style="text-decoration: underline;">therapy session with Dr. Phil</span> than with a encounter with a Holy God.</p>
<p>I have some concerns with the book being <strong>vague</strong> in some areas.  I would like to make it clear that <span style="text-decoration: underline;">I understand the book is only fictional, </span>and that many &#8220;heresy hunters&#8221; tear it apart with bad spirits by taking fictional parts of the book and misapplying them.  <strong>I don&#8217;t even have a great problem with <span style="text-decoration: underline;">much of the things that others are griping about;</span></strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"> </span>and, in some <span style="text-decoration: underline;">cases would agree with Young on things that he is being blasted about.</span> The story is intriguing, interesting, and I can relate to much of it.</p>
<p align="center"><strong>So just to make sure you know my heart <span style="text-decoration: underline;">much of the book was good.</span></strong></p>
<p>However, you cannot write a book attempting to answer questions about suffering, God&#8217;s love, the new covenant, and many other topics, then <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>include your theology</strong></span>, and then say that others can&#8217;t criticize it because <strong>&#8220;it&#8217;s not a theology book (Young).&#8221;</strong> &#8211; especially when the theology in the book <strong>can be interpreted</strong> as <strong> a paradigm shift away from the historic Christian Faith.</strong></p>
<p>My <span style="text-decoration: underline;">biggest concern</span> isn&#8217;t actually of the <span style="text-decoration: underline;">book itself</span>, but the overall background of Paul Young&#8217;s beliefs, and <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">the acceptance of the book by the world</span>.</strong> It concerns me that the <strong>vagueness</strong> of the book has let so many read it, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">and not see the full Gospel</span>.</p>
<p>While I can read it and not find fault with much, because I am able to look past stuff and give Young the benefit of the doubt, I fear that others from false religions can do the same.</p>
<p>This is a very important point. The editor admits that the book was written during a time when Paul Young was believing U.R. (Ultimate Reconciliation); but the editor and publisher then says that he has since shown Young differently.  Still, the overall content of the book was originated from someone seeing God from a U.R. perspective <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">at the time it was written</span>.</strong> Maybe this is why this book is making such a craze.  Millions have simply never <span style="text-decoration: underline;"> viewed</span> God from a U.R. perspective.  So they think it is some new, <span style="text-decoration: underline;"> more pure understanding of the Father&#8217;s love</span>.</p>
<p>Furthermore, on this point, suppose that an author wrote a book while believing that Jesus was <strong>only</strong> a man, but then changed beliefs later on. Then certain parts of that book were taken out, but the general view was left intact. Would the insights of a book written from his original perspective be accurate?</p>
<p>Just for clarification, <strong>I am not saying that Young is a dyed- in- the- wool U.R. AND I AM <span style="text-decoration: underline;">NOT SAYING</span> THAT THE BOOK COMES RIGHT OUT AND TEACHES U.R.</strong></p>
<p>But, he seems to get very close with his verbiage; <strong>for sure</strong>, he used to be to some extent.   Some will say, &#8220;So what is the problem with that?&#8221;  Well, I don&#8217;t have time in this email to share exhaustively, but it should raise grave concerns to anyone taking serious the <span style="text-decoration: underline;">entirety of Scripture</span>.  So even if Young does not believe in U.R. <span style="text-decoration: underline;">any more</span> (for sake of argument),  he surely doesn&#8217;t speak about the judgment side of the Father &#8211; <span style="text-decoration: underline;">hardly at all,</span> and in some ways, he may even <span style="text-decoration: underline;">undermine it</span>.  What I am trying to say is, anyone who reads any of the gospels for just a few chapters will see Jesus talking about  judgment, hell, condemnation,  the wrath of God, etc., in reference to those who do <span style="text-decoration: underline;">not walk in His Love</span>.  I don&#8217;t think anyone will argue that <span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Shack,</span> with its main character&#8217;s many conversations with God, only mentions hell even 1/100th as much as the Bible.</p>
<p>Suppose that 99% of the conversations involved God talking about hell with the main character.  Surely many would cry, &#8220;Imbalanced!&#8221; and, &#8220;Where is the other side, showing God&#8217;s love? &#8220;<strong>And, they would be right! </strong> It seems the new perceptions of God portrayed in this book flow from someone that doesn&#8217;t seem to warn of a literal Hell but 1% of the time (if that). So the question is, are any of Young&#8217;s new perceptions true? Jesus spoke more on this subject of hell that just about any other?   This U.R. view is a dangerous view, for it undermines the <strong>fear of God</strong>, which is &#8220;the Everlasting Gospel&#8221; (Rev 14). I fear for all of us in these last days, that we might swallow a false Gospel that takes away <strong>one whole side of God</strong>.</p>
<p>Remember, heresy is a &#8220;truth out of balance&#8221; or a strong opinion of one side of an issue.<br />
<strong>I understand that many of us are coming out of legalism and a false understanding of who the Father is. We want to experience <span style="text-decoration: underline;">His true love</span>; but, is </strong><strong>this</strong><strong> imbalance the solution! God is love, and because of that He spent much time in His Word warning us of the Judgment to come.</strong><strong> </strong></p>
<p>Here are some quotes from the book, with just a few obvious verses below each where I have concerns.  Remember, it is not the emotional stories in the book that are the problem; it is the <span style="text-decoration: underline;">vagueness</span>, <strong>laced throughout</strong> it, that are concerning.  Again there are some good insights in the book, yet at key points in the conversations the <strong>vagueness</strong> enters in.</p>
<p>I do not seek to win an argument or desire to have a debate.   I do not judge anyone who finds the book a blessing.  I just want to be faithful to Jesus and share my concerns about the book.    If you don&#8217;t agree, let us endeavor to preserve our peace.</p>
<p>One last thing before I share some excerpts.  It is important to remember that there is a DANGER  in creating a God, &#8220;after our likeness&#8221; and then calling it Jesus.  We must look to His revealed Word, and derive from it how God is.  Many could care less about the scriptures so they recreate a god to fit there existing morality. My plea is to go back to the God of the scriptures. And then conform our lives to it, and not the other way around.</p>
<p><strong>The following quotes from the book will be in purple. </strong></p>
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<p>God: &#8220;I am neither male nor female, even though both genders are derived from my nature.&#8221;  Pg 93<br />
Although God describes Himself from time to time in different pictures, I.E. &#8220;a hen&#8221; -  He never <strong>&#8220;appears&#8221;</strong> as a female!  God always comes to us as <strong>&#8220;a male&#8221;</strong>, and is always manifested to man in the<strong> masculine</strong>.  Maybe this female manifestation is why Oprah so likes this book? <img src='http://www.indywatchman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Jesus came to declare that God was a father. (John 1:18)  Yet Paul Young states in an interview on YouTube that to only show God in the masculine would be <strong>&#8220;inadequate.&#8221;</strong> So, is Paul Young saying that Jesus&#8217; declaration of God was inadequate?   Jesus never declared the motherhood, or the feminine side of God.  It is simply unscriptural to say that God is not masculine, but neutral!  This appears to just be a dissecting of some Greek words with a pre-conceived agenda.</p>
<p>This is very important because such a thought can warp our minds to think of God the Father, as a woman <span style="text-decoration: underline;">also</span>.  Young goes on to set up a straw man argument on page 91-92 by stating that if God revealed Himself to Mack as a male, this would just be &#8220;<em>reinforcing your stereotypes&#8221;</em> <strong> Is it a stereotype to believe that God is masculine? </strong> And if so, is it a stereotype based on scripture?  YES!   Young&#8217;s statement isn&#8217;t fair;.  Now if some one&#8217;s stereotype is that God is far off, and is a mean dad who is only there to take away your fun, then yes, that stereotype needs taken away.  But, it is simply wrong to have a female manifested as the father. However I do not judge his heart in trying to show &#8220;Mack&#8221; a different perspective since Mack had problems with his father.  It is just concerning since others reading the book can put it into there false concepts about a feminine God.</p>
<p>At best it would have been wise to just have a male appear to Mack because it really wasn&#8217;t necessary.<br />
I Corinthians 11:7 &#8220;<em>For a <span style="text-decoration: underline;">man</span> indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as </em><strong><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">he</span> is the image and glory of God</em></strong><em>: but the woman is the </em> <strong><em>glory of the man</em></strong>.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hebrews 1:3a &#8220;<em>Who being the brightness of <span style="text-decoration: underline;">his</span> glory, and <span style="text-decoration: underline;">the express image</span> of </em> <strong><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">His</span> person</em>,&#8221; </strong> This a statement describing the Incarnate Word, Jesus!</p>
<p>Man was made in the image of God the Father; then woman was made.  Let us not get away from the simplicity of scripture by getting caught up in translating some Hebrew word and running with it.  For a further explanation of this, read about the word Young uses at the bottom of this email.</p>
<p>This reminds me of Romans 1:23 &#8220;<em>And </em> <strong><em>changed the glory</em></strong><em> of the incorruptible God into an image </em><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong><em>made like to corruptible man</em></strong></span><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">,</span> and to birds, and four-footed beasts, and creeping things.&#8221;</em><em> </em></p>
<p align="center"><strong>I clearly understand that this book is just fiction;</strong><strong> however, it wouldn&#8217;t be right for me to write a fictional book about 2 homosexuals, and say its ok to be gay!   Later, when someone says that&#8217;s wrong, I then say &#8220;its just fiction.&#8221; </strong><br />
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<p>C.S. Lewis says that &#8220;<em>the whole universe is feminine before God. God gives and the universe receives. Even in sex, the male gives and the woman receives. What justification do we have to declare that the Biblical writers and 2000 years of church history are wrong in preferring </em> <strong><em>the masculine image </em></strong><em>to the female image to represent God? Any religion that puts the feminine at the heart of the universe rather than the masculine would result in a religion very different from historic Christianity</em>.&#8221; This is important. (See C.S. Lewis &#8211; &#8216;Priestesses in the Church&#8217; in God in the Dock.</p>
<p>I also understand that other Christian books use allegory like Narnia.  However, there is a difference.  In Narnia, the book never says that Jesus is the lion, it is something you spiritualize out of the story, like Lord of the Rings, or even the Matrix.  <strong>But <span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Shack</span> is really not an allegory</strong>, but a <span style="text-decoration: underline;">fictional story</span>, trying to show what God is like.   Young claims he chose character aspects of God derived supposedly <span style="text-decoration: underline;">from scripture</span>.  In the process, a major misrepresentation is espoused&#8230;I.E. <strong><em>that God is as feminine <span style="text-decoration: underline;">as He is</span> masculine</em></strong>.  This is not found anywhere in scripture, only by breaking Hebrew root words down and interpreting them different from the majority of Hebrew experts.  Is this the way we want to get out theology now?  Breaking a Hebrew root word down, and somehow extrapolating from that that God is not masculine - <span style="text-decoration: underline;">especially when there are hundreds of verses that would say He is masculine! </span></p>
<p>As already mentioned above on Young&#8217;s blog he transcribes what seems to be a conversation with God since the book was written. He refers to God as <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>he and she</strong></span> at different times in the talk.  So it <span style="text-decoration: underline;">seems</span> that this is not just a fictional part of a book but the way a prays as well. Since this is not a section of a book, but a recent talk he seems to have had with God.</p>
<p align="center"><strong>Nevertheless I was able to spit this bone out and keep reading and was blessed to some extent.<br />
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<p align="center"><strong>But as I read on I noticed&#8230;<br />
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<p>God: &#8220;I don&#8217;t need to punish people for sin.  Sin is its own punishment, devouring you from the inside.  It&#8217;s not my purpose to punish it; it&#8217;s my joy to cure it.&#8221;  Pg 120</p>
<p>Though he takes no delight in it, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">is not God actively involved in the punishment of sin</span>? Doesn&#8217;t he need to if we are not turning from our sins?<br />
<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=65&amp;chapter=10&amp;verse=29&amp;version=9&amp;context=verse" target="_blank"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Hebrews 10:29</span></strong></a><br />
<em>Of how much sorer </em><strong><em>punishment</em></strong><em>, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace</em>?<br />
<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=23&amp;chapter=149&amp;verse=7&amp;version=9&amp;context=verse" target="_blank"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Psalm 149:7</span></strong></a><br />
<em>To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and </em> <strong><em>punishment</em></strong><em>s upon the people</em><br />
<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=47&amp;chapter=25&amp;verse=46&amp;version=9&amp;context=verse" target="_blank"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Matthew 25:46</span></strong></a><br />
<em>And these shall go away into everlasting </em> <strong><em>punishment</em></strong><em>: but the righteous into life eternal.</em></p>
<p><strong> 2 Thessalonians 1:8</strong> <em>In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: </em><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">9</span></em><em> Who shall be </em> <strong><em>punished</em></strong><em> with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;</em></p>
<p><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=68&amp;chapter=2&amp;verse=9&amp;version=9&amp;context=verse" target="_blank"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">2 Peter 2:9</span></strong></a><br />
<em>The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be </em> <strong><em>punished</em></strong><em>:</em></p>
<p><strong> Again maybe this is why the book is being so well received.  Maybe we want to hear of a God that doesn&#8217;t punish us for our sins.</strong></p>
<p>Mack: &#8220;Are there any who you are not especially fond of?&#8221;<br />
In the context of this question from Mack, Papa answers that &#8220;<span style="text-decoration: underline;">every being ever created&#8221; </span>&#8220;Nope, I haven&#8217;t been able to find any.  Guess that&#8217;s jes&#8217; the way I is.&#8221;   Papa goes on to say in the context of every being that she is mad about &#8220;the mess <span style="text-decoration: underline;"> my kids</span> have made and in the mess they&#8217;re in. Pg 118/119</p>
<p>We are his creation, but only those who have received Jesus are born again, and become sons of God.  Remember Jesus called the religious of his day <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=50&amp;chapter=8&amp;verse=44&amp;version=9&amp;context=verse" target="_blank"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">John 8:44</span></strong></a> &#8220;<em>Ye are of your </em> <strong><em>father</em></strong><em> the </em><strong><em>devil</em></strong>,&#8221; and again <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=69&amp;chapter=3&amp;verse=10&amp;version=9&amp;context=verse" target="_blank"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">1 John 3:10</span></strong></a> &#8220;<em>In this the </em> <strong><em>children</em></strong><em> of God are manifest, and the </em><strong><em>children</em></strong><em> of the </em> <strong><em>devil</em></strong><em>: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother</em>.&#8221;</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>So is it right to say that there are not any people in the world that God is </strong></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>&#8220;not fond of</strong></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>&#8220;? </strong></span></p>
<p><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=23&amp;chapter=11&amp;verse=5&amp;version=31&amp;context=verse" target="_blank"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Psalm 11:5</span></strong></a><br />
The LORD examines the righteous, but the <strong>wicked</strong> and those who love violence<strong> <span style="text-decoration: underline;">his soul hates.</span> </strong><br />
<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=23&amp;chapter=5&amp;verse=5&amp;version=9&amp;context=verse" target="_blank"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Psalm 5:5</span></strong></a><br />
The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: you  <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">hate</span></strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"> all workers of iniquity.</span><br />
<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=52&amp;chapter=9&amp;verse=13&amp;version=9&amp;context=verse" target="_blank"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Romans 9:13</span></strong></a><br />
As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau <span style="text-decoration: underline;">have I </span> <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">hated</span></strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">.</span><br />
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<p>justice will never take place because of love.</p>
<h4><strong>Isaiah 61:8 &#8220;For I, the Lord, love<span style="text-decoration: underline;"> justice</span>. I hate robbery and wrongdoing.   I will faithfully reward my people for their suffering and make an everlasting covenant with them.</strong></h4>
<p><strong>Hosea 2:19</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;<em>I will make you my wife forever, showing you righteousness and <span style="text-decoration: underline;">justice</span>,<br />
unfailing love and compassion</em>.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=23&amp;chapter=9&amp;verse=17&amp;version=9&amp;context=verse" target="_blank"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Psalm 9:17</span></strong></a><br />
&#8220;<em>The wicked shall be </em><strong><em>turned</em></strong><em> </em> <strong><em>into</em></strong><em> </em><strong><em>hell</em></strong><em>, and all the nations that forget God.&#8221;</em></p>
<p><strong>Revelation 8:3</strong></p>
<p><em>&#8220;Another angel, who had a golden censer, came and stood at the altar. He was given much incense to offer, with the prayers of all the saints, on the golden altar before the throne. 4The smoke of the incense, together with the prayers of the saints, went up before God from the angel&#8217;s hand. 5Then the angel took the censer, filled it with fire from the altar, and hurled it on the earth; and there came peals of thunder, rumblings, flashes of lightning and an earthquake. </em></p>
<p><strong><em> God listened to the prayers of the saints and then <span style="text-decoration: underline;">sent justice</span>. The Justice, flowing from Gods love.&#8221;</em></strong></p>
<p><strong>Revelation 20:14</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;<em>And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. </em><strong><em>15</em></strong><em> And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.&#8221; <strong> </strong></em><strong> Is this not Justice?</strong></p>
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<p>God: &#8220;I&#8217;m not a bully, not some self-centered demanding little Deity insisting on my own way.&#8221;  Pg 126</p>
<p><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=23&amp;chapter=2&amp;verse=12&amp;version=31&amp;context=verse" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">This is a unfair straw man statement.  And though I would never describe God as such, this statement is just wrong.</span></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=23&amp;chapter=2&amp;verse=12&amp;version=31&amp;context=verse" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Just look at 1 of many verses where he demands from us, and if we don&#8217;t obey, there is punishment.</span><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"> </span></strong><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><br />
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<p><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=23&amp;chapter=2&amp;verse=12&amp;version=31&amp;context=verse" target="_blank"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Psalm 2:12</span></strong></a><br />
<strong><em>Kiss</em></strong><em> the </em> <strong><em>Son</em></strong><em>, </em><strong><em>lest he be angry</em></strong><em> and you be destroyed in your way, for his wrath can flare up in a moment. Blessed are all who take refuge in him.</em></p>
<p><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=47&amp;chapter=21&amp;verse=44&amp;version=9&amp;context=verse" target="_blank"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Matthew 21:44</span></strong></a><br />
<em>And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will </em><strong><em>grind</em></strong><em> him to </em> <strong><em>powder</em></strong><em>.</em></p>
<p>If God doesn&#8217;t demand His will be done then why did Satan get kicked out of heaven&#8221;</p>
<p>In Isaiah 14 Satan repeatedly said &#8220;I will&#8221; and was then thrust our of it.</p>
<p><strong>Ultimately, our obedience must flow from our love for Him, but to say that he doesn&#8217;t insist on His own way is just disturbing.</strong></p>
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<p>God: &#8220;I&#8217;ve never taken control of your choices or forced you to do anything. To force my will on you,&#8221; Jesus replied, &#8220;is exactly what love does not do&#8221; <span style="text-decoration: underline;">we are submitted to you in the same way&#8221;</span> Pg 145</p>
<p>What Verse would teach that God is submitted to us?</p>
<p>I realize that the book isn&#8217;t giving any scripture reference but should such a bold statement be founded in the scriptures.</p>
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<p><strong>God: &#8220;Son, this is not about shaming you.  I don&#8217;t do humiliation, or guilt, or condemnation.  They don&#8217;t produce one speck of wholeness or righteousness, and that is why they <span style="text-decoration: underline;">were nailed into Jesus on the cross.</span>&#8220;  Pg 223</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=61&amp;chapter=1&amp;verse=5&amp;version=9&amp;context=verse" target="_blank"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">1 Timothy 1:5</span></strong></a><br />
<em>Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good </em> <strong><em>conscience</em></strong><em>, and of faith unfeigned</em>:</p>
<p>What is the opposite of a good conscience?  A guilty conscience!  Is not guilt from God? <strong>Yes!  A reprobate mind feels no guilt because the conscience has been seared. </strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=61&amp;chapter=1&amp;verse=19&amp;version=9&amp;context=verse" target="_blank"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">1 Timothy 1:19</span></strong></a><br />
<em>Holding faith, and a good </em><strong><em>conscience</em></strong><em>; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck:</em></p>
<p><strong>&#8220;I don&#8217;t do &#8230;condemnation&#8221; </strong><strong> </strong><strong>Pg 223</strong><strong></strong></p>
<p><strong></strong><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">John 3:18</span></strong></p>
<p><em>He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.</em></p>
<h4><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Romans 8:1</span></strong><strong> &#8220;<em>There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.&#8221;</em></strong></h4>
<p>If I, as a believer walk after the flesh, <strong>there is condemnation</strong>.  But the God of this book &#8220;Papa&#8221; says<br />
<strong>&#8220;I don&#8217;t do &#8230;condemnation</strong><strong>&#8221; &#8211; </strong>is this not disturbing to say the least?</p>
<p align="center"><strong>Here are more points that can be <span style="text-decoration: underline;">derived</span> from the book, even though they <span style="text-decoration: underline;">may not always be word for word quotes</span></strong><strong>.</strong></p>
<p><strong>The God portray in the shack is &#8220;Goodness&#8221; but has </strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>little</strong></span><strong>&#8220;Severity&#8221;.  Therefore it is a misrepresentation of who He is. </strong><strong> </strong><strong><br />
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<p>Romans 11: 22 Behold therefore the <strong>goodness and severity</strong> of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">if</span> thou <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">continue in his goodness</span></strong>: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong> </strong><strong>&#8220;In Jesus I forgave all humans of their sin against me, but only some choose relationship.</strong>&#8221; p<br />
Even though the scriptures teach that &#8220;All&#8221; can find forgiveness (its available), the forgiveness doesn&#8217;t come until there is repentance.</p>
<p>I realize that Mack is told to turn several times, yet it is usually a <span style="text-decoration: underline;">turn to</span> that is emphasized, and not both a turn from <span style="text-decoration: underline;">and</span> a turn to. <em><strong>1 Thess 1:9 &#8220;</strong></em><em><strong>you turned <span style="text-decoration: underline;">to God</span> <span style="text-decoration: underline;">from idols</span> to serve the living and true&#8221; God;<br />
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<p><em>What I mean by this is that the scriptures list many specific sins for a reason, and not just inward ones.  This is import so that conviction comes, and the fear of God comes to the lost soul properly.<strong><br />
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<p><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=29&amp;chapter=55&amp;verse=7&amp;version=9&amp;context=verse" target="_blank"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Isaiah 55:7</span></strong></a><br />
<strong>Let</strong> the <strong>wicked</strong> forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and <strong>let</strong> him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.</p>
<p>Forgiveness means that the person is released from there debt.  The debt is Eternal Separation from God.  This <span style="text-decoration: underline;">could be</span> the U.R. coming out in the book again.  Has the Father released all men of the debt of sin, if so then all me will be saved (witch is what U.R. teaches.)</p>
<p><strong>The portrait of Jesus is not balanced in this book.  Young seems to forget the other side of Jesus.</strong><br />
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</strong>Revelation 2:21And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. 22Behold, <strong>I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.</strong> 23<strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"> And I will kill her children with death</span></strong>; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.<br />
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</strong>Does the Jesus in the &#8220;Shack&#8221; resemble at all the Jesus of the Bible portrait in Revelation 19: 12 &#8220;His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13And he was clothed with a vesture <strong>dipped in blood</strong>: and his name is called The Word of God. 14And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 <span style="text-decoration: underline;">And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword</span>, that with it he <span style="text-decoration: underline;">should smite the nations</span>: and he shall <span style="text-decoration: underline;">rule them with a rod of iron</span>: and he <span style="text-decoration: underline;">treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God</span>. 16And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. 17And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; 18That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. 19And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. 20And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. 21And the remnant <span style="text-decoration: underline;"> were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse,</span> which <span style="text-decoration: underline;"> sword proceeded out of his mouth</span>: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.<strong>&#8220;</strong></p>
<p><strong>&#8220;Does that mean that &#8220;asked Mack&#8221; that all roads will lead to you?&#8221; &#8220;Not at all,&#8221; Smiled Jesus&#8230;most roads don&#8217;t lead anywhere&#8221;</strong><br />
Is this true? Do <strong>&#8220;most</strong><strong> </strong><strong>roads don&#8217;t lead anywhere&#8221;</strong>?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=47&amp;chapter=7&amp;verse=13&amp;version=31&amp;context=verse" target="_blank"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Matthew 7:13</span></strong></a><br />
&#8220;Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the<strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"> road</span></strong> that <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">leads to destruction</span></strong>, and many enter through it.<br />
take out cursing part</p>
<p><strong>God is limited by His love and cannot practice justice.</strong><br />
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The Bible declares that God&#8217;s love and His justice are two sides of the same coin, both equally part of the personality and the character of God. (Isaiah 61:8; Hosea 2:19).</p>
<p><strong>There <span style="text-decoration: underline;">is not</span> a hierarchical structure in the Godhead, just a <span style="text-decoration: underline;">circle of unity</span>.        (p120-122)</strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">1 Corinthians 11:3</span></strong> &#8220;<em>But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; </em><strong><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">and the head of Christ is God.</span></em></strong><em>&#8220;</em><br />
<a name="11e5c19a151fa5a1_11cba44dddd33332_11cba19e341722fb_0.1_01000005"></a><strong>The Bible says that Jesus submitted to the will of the Father &#8220;<em>in that He Feared</em>&#8221; </strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">(Heb5:7-9) 7</span></strong> <em>Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared; </em><strong><em>8</em></strong><em> -Though he were a Son, yet </em><strong><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">learned he obedience</span></em></strong><em> by the things which he suffered; </em><strong><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">9</span></em></strong><em> And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him</em>;</p>
<p><strong>Jesus will deliver all things to the Father in the end. </strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">1 Cor 15:24</span></strong> <em>Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom </em> <strong><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">to God,</span></em></strong><em> even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power</em>.</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;what happens if I change that &#8216;expectancy&#8217; to an expectation- spoken or unspoken?  Suddenly, law has entered into our relationship.  You are now expected to perform in a ways that meets my expectations. Our living friendship rapidly deteriorates into a dead thing with rules and requirements&#8230;.Honey, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">I&#8217;ve never placed an expectation on you or anyone else</span>&#8230;.because I have no expectation, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">you never disappoint me</span>.</strong>&#8221;</p>
<p>This is where the psychology creeps in.  This sounds like a Therapy session on Dr. Phil.  What scriptures could possibly be used to teach this?</p>
<p>A simple meditation of Gods expectations found in scripture will yield dozens of verses that would go against this false teaching.  I understand that He will work these in us as we abide in Him, but to say that He doesn&#8217;t have any is wrong.</p>
<p><strong> Romans 2:7 &#8220;To them who by patient <span style="text-decoration: underline;">continuance in well doing</span> seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: 8But unto them that are contentious, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">and do not obey the truth</span>, but <span style="text-decoration: underline;">obey unrighteousness</span>, indignation and wrath, 9Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 10But glory, honour, and peace, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">to every man that worketh good</span>, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:&#8221; </strong><br />
Romans 11: 20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, <strong>but fear</strong>: 21 For if God spared not the natural branches, <strong> take heed</strong> lest he also spare not <strong>thee</strong>.22 Behold therefore the <strong>goodness and severity</strong> of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">if</span> thou <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">continue in his goodness</span></strong>: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.&#8221;</p>
<p>Does this verse not teach us that God express&#8217; us to &#8220;Continue in his goodness&#8221;.  Is this not a expectation that has a negative consequence if not walked in?</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">&#8220;I&#8217;ve never placed an expectation on you or anyone else</span></strong>&#8220;  Is this next verse not a expectation?<br />
<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=51&amp;chapter=17&amp;verse=30&amp;version=9&amp;context=verse" target="_blank"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Acts 17:30</span></strong></a><br />
And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now <strong>commands all men every where to repent:</strong></p>
<p>Revelation 2:11&#8243;He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.&#8221;  <strong>Does He not call us to overcome by His power.  Is this not a expectation for His sons?<br />
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<span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>The Shack lacks a message of repentance.</strong></span> I realize that God attempt to deal with Mack on many issue in his life, but the message of repentance is so watered down, and unclear.  The sessions with God are not <span style="text-decoration: underline;">ended with morning, and whaling, and repentance</span>, but with &#8220;Lets get some dinner,&#8221; or &#8220;go for a walk.&#8221; as if to change the subject. The conversations seem to promise forgiveness regardless of repentance.</p>
<p>Mack&#8217;s Father for example lives a wicked life, and as far as the reader knows he never repents,<span style="text-decoration: underline;"> and yet is in heaven.</span> In fact Papa even says that she has &#8220;covered&#8221; the evil in the world with her &#8220;goodness&#8221; (p125). These conversations seem to me to resemble a therapy session filled with  <strong>Psychology</strong> instead of a encounter with a Holy God.  Just compare the conversations in the Shack with the message of scripture.<br />
<strong>Papa speaking of the Murderer that Killed Mack&#8217;s daughter says that &#8220;<span style="text-decoration: underline;">he too is my son</span>, I want to redeem him.&#8221;</strong><br />
Again how can the killer be Gods son since there is no signs of the killer repenting?  Just a quick look a 1 John will show this to be major false teaching.</p>
<p>While these are interpretations of what the book says, these interpretations go along with what the Author seems to believe, or <span style="text-decoration: underline;">at the time of writing the book</span> seemed to have believed (publishers website Universalism, and U.R.) although Young may not call himself by these labels now.  I may not like labels either, but if something smells, looks and feels like a cat, then its a cat. If someone agrees with all 5 points of Calvinism and disagrees with 5 points of Agrarianism, is it fair for me to say that he at best is Calvinistic? My point is I fear that the VAGUENESS OF SOME OF THE BOOKS TEACHINGS is having more of an effect on the readers of the book than realized.</p>
<p>One last thought.  If we are living in the &#8220;Last Days&#8221; where much deception is to be everywhere, are we to believe that a book that is #1 on the New York Times best seller list, and a book that is endorsed by a Christ denying Oprah Winfrey, and that millions of people are in a craze about <span style="text-decoration: underline;">is from God</span>?  Is this some End Times revival?  Is Kathy Lee Gifford, and many others, seeing aspects of God that Wesley, Tozer, Hudson Taylor, Oswald Chambers, Watchmen Nee, and other Holy men of God just missed for 1900 years?</p>
<p>Or, is this just par for the course in these last days? Another stage in the line of many <span style="text-decoration: underline;">little changes</span> that slowly pull us away from knowing the Jesus of the scriptures?</p>
<p>Again my concerns <span style="text-decoration: underline;">are not</span> with the book as much as the overall direction of Christianity in the nation. The book just seems to go along with that direction, that may be why it is so well received.</p>
<p>I learned that Young is going to have a movie made from the book.  My prayer is that if they do this, they would just change the things listed above, then it could be a very good movie. If not, this will be another influence that pulls people further down the road of away from the truths of knowing the Real Jesus.</p>
<p>The over all spirit of &#8220;The Shack&#8221; does not resemble that of Gods message to His children for the last days.  In some ways it resembles &#8220;New Age&#8221; books like <span style="text-decoration: underline;">&#8220;Conversations with God</span>&#8220;.  Maybe this is why it is selling so well.  But would it sell as many books if its message was similar to that of</p>
<p>2 Peter 3:9 <em><br />
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<p><em>&#8220;The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">but that all should come to repentance</span></strong>. 10But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved,<strong> what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,</strong> 12Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. 14Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, <strong> be diligent</strong> that ye may be found of him in peace, <strong>without spot, and blameless</strong>. 15And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 16As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. 17Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things <span style="text-decoration: underline;">before</span>, <strong>beware</strong> lest ye also, being led away <strong>with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness</strong>.</em></p>
<p>These are my thoughts, and I just ask you to take them to Jesus and pray about them</p>
<p>Grace and Peace</p>
<p>Jason Robinson</p>
<p><strong>P.S.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Breakdown of the word </strong><strong>El Shaddai </strong><strong>showing <span style="text-decoration: underline;">it does not teach a feminine side of God</span>, but that it just shows that God will nuture us as a mother with a breast feeds here child.<br />
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<h1><strong>El Shaddai</strong></h1>
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<p><strong>El Shaddai</strong> (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_language" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Hebrew</span></a>: <strong> ××œ ×©×&#8221;×<sup>TM</sup></strong>â€Ž) is one of the Judaic names of God. See <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_-28god-29" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">El (god)</span></a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_God_in_Judaism#Shaddai" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Names of God in Judaism</span></a>. It is normally translated &#8220;God Almighty who is all sufficient&#8221;.</p>
<p>The term <span style="text-decoration: underline;">probably means</span> <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"> &#8220;God of the Mountain,</span></strong>&#8221; referring to the Mesopotamian divine mountain.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Shaddai#cite_note-Harris-0" target="_blank"><sup><span style="text-decoration: underline;">[1]</span></sup></a> The term was one of the patriarchal names for the tribal god of the Mesopotamians<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Shaddai#cite_note-Harris-0" target="_blank"><sup><span style="text-decoration: underline;">[1]</span></sup></a> In Exodus 6:3, El Shaddai is identified with <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Yahweh</span></a>.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Shaddai#cite_note-Harris-0" target="_blank"><sup><span style="text-decoration: underline;">[1]</span></sup></a> The term appears chiefly in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torah" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Torah</span></a>. This could also refer to the Israelite camp&#8217;s stay at Mount Sinai where God was with Moses on the mountain.</p>
<p>Shaddai was a late Bronze Age Amorite city on the banks of the Euphrates river, in northern Syria. The site of its ruin-mound is called Tell eth-Thadyen: &#8220;Thadyen&#8221; being the modern Arabic rendering of the original West Semitic &#8220;Shaddai&#8221;. It has been conjectured that El Shaddai was therefore the &#8220;god of Shaddai&#8221; and associated in tradition with Abraham, and the inclusion of the Abraham stories into the Hebrew Bible may have brought the northern name with them (see Documentary hypothesis).</p>
<p>In the vision of Balaam recorded in the Book of Numbers 24:4 and 16, the vision comes from Shaddai along with El. In the fragmentary inscriptions at Deir Alla, though Shaddai is not, or not fully present,[6] shaddayin appear, less figurations of Shaddai.[7] These have been tentatively identified with the Åedim of Deuteronomy 34:17 and Psalm 106:37-38,[8] who are Canaanite deities.</p>
<p>According to Exodus 6:2, 3, Shaddai is the name by which God was known to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The name Shaddai (Hebrew: ×©Ö·××&#8221;Ö·Ö¼×<sup>TM</sup>) is used as a name of God later in the Book of Job.</p>
<p>In the Septuagint and other early translations Shaddai was translated with words meaning <span style="text-decoration: underline;">&#8220;Almighty&#8221;</span>. The root word &#8220;shadad&#8221; (×©×&#8221;×&#8221;) means &#8220;to overpower&#8221; or &#8220;to destroy&#8221;. This would give Shaddai the meaning of &#8220;destroyer&#8221; as one of the aspects of God. Thus it is essentially an epithet. Harriet Lutzky has presented evidence that Shaddai was an attribute of a Semitic goddess, linking the epithet with Hebrew Å¡ad &#8220;breast&#8221; as &#8220;the one of the Breast&#8221;, as Asherah at Ugarit is &#8220;the one of the Womb&#8221;.[9]</p>
<p>Another<span style="text-decoration: underline;"> theory</span> is that Shaddai is a derivation of a Semitic stem that appears in the Akkadian shadÃ» (&#8220;mountain&#8221;) and shaddÄ&#8217;Ã» or shaddÃ»&#8217;a (&#8220;mountain-dweller&#8221;), one of the names of Amurru. This theory was popularized by W. F. Albright but was somewhat weakened when it was noticed that the doubling of the medial d is first documented only in the Neo-Assyrian period. However, the doubling in Hebrew might possibly be secondary. In this theory God is seen as inhabiting a mythical holy mountain, a concept not unknown in ancient West Asian mythology (see El), and also evident in the Syriac Christian writings of Ephrem the Syrian, who places Eden on an inaccessible mountaintop.</p>
<p>An<strong> alternative view </strong> proposed by Albright is that the name is connected to shadayim which means <strong>&#8220;breasts&#8221;</strong> in Hebrew. It may thus be connected to the <span style="text-decoration: underline;">notion of God&#8217;s fertility and blessings of the human race.</span> In several instances it is connected with fruitfulness: &#8220;May God Almighty [El Shaddai] bless you and make you fruitful and increase your numbersâ€¦&#8221; (Gen. 28:3). &#8220;I am God Almighty [El Shaddai]: be fruitful and increase in number&#8221; (Gen. 35:11). &#8220;By the Almighty [El Shaddai] who will bless you with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lies beneath, blessings of the breasts [shadayim] and of the womb [racham]&#8221; (Gen. 49:25).</p>
<p>It is also given a Midrashic interpretation as an acronym standing for <strong>&#8220;Guardian of the Doors of Israel&#8221; </strong>(Hebrew: ×©××•Ö¹×žÖ¶×¨ ×&#8221;Ö°×œÖ¸×ª×•Ö¹×ª ×<sup>TM</sup>Ö´×©Ö°×‚×¨Ö¸×Ö¶×œ). This acronym, which is commonly found as carvings or writings upon the mezuzah (a vessel which houses a scroll of parchment with Biblical text written on it) that is situated upon all the door frames in a home or establishment.</p>
<p>Still <strong>another view</strong> is that &#8220;El Shaddai&#8221; is comprised of the Hebrew relative pronoun She (Shin plus vowel segol), or, as in this case, as Sha (Shin plus vowel patach followed by a dagesh, cf. A Beginner&#8217;s Handbook to Biblical Hebrew, John Marks and Virgil Roger, Nashville:Abingdon, 1978 &#8220;Relative Pronoun, p.60, par.45) The noun containing the dagesh is the Hebrew word Dai meaning &#8220;enough,sufficient, sufficiency&#8221; (cf. Ben Yehudah&#8217;s Pocket English-Hebrew/Hebrew-English,New York, NY:Pocket Books, Simon &amp; Schuster Inc.,1964,p.44). This is the same word used in the Passover Haggadah, Dayeinu, &#8220;It would have been sufficient.&#8221; The song entitled Dayeinu celebrates the various miracles God performed while extricating the Hebrews from Egyptian servitude. It is understood as such by The Stone Edition of the Chumash (Torah) published by the Orthodox Jewish publisher Art Scroll, editors Rabbi Nosson Scherman/Rabbi Meir Zlotowitz, Brooklyn, New York: Mesorah Publications,Ltd. 2nd edition, 1994, cf. Exodus 6:3 commentary p.319. The Talmud explains it this way, but says that &#8220;Shaddai&#8221; stands for &#8220;Mi she&#8217;Amar Dai L&#8217;olamo&#8221; &#8211; &#8220;He who said &#8216;Enough&#8217; to His world.&#8221; When God was creating the world, He stopped the process at a certain point, holding back creation from reaching its full completion, and thus the name embodies God&#8217;s power to stop creation.</p>
<p>It is often paraphrased in English translations as &#8220;Almighty&#8221; although this is an interpretive element. The name then refers to the pre-Mosaic patriarchal understanding of deity as &#8220;God who is sufficient.&#8221; God is sufficient, that is, to supply all of one&#8217;s needs, and therefore by derivation &#8220;almighty&#8221;. It may also be understood as an allusion to the singularity of deity &#8220;El&#8221; as opposed to &#8220;Elohim&#8221; plural being sufficient or enough for the early patriarchs of Judaism. To this was latter added the Mosaic conception of YHWH as God who is sufficient in Himself,thatis,a self-determined eternal Being qua Being, for whom limited descriptive names cannot apply. This may have been the probable intent of &#8220;eyeh asher eyeh&#8221; which is by extension applied to YHWH (a likely anagram for the three states of Being past, present and future conjoined with the conjunctive letter vav), cf. Exodus 3:13-15.</p>
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<p class="h2_body">Well, it&#8217;s that time of year again, and Ah Ha, Christians everywhere will be partying with the Pagans.  And, of course someone always has to come along and spoil the fun by pointing out the, now obvious, truth that &#8220;Christmas&#8221; is not a holiday (holy day) but pagan to the core; those mean ole Grinchs. It is with respect to our Lord that I once again try to point out the obvious by allowing the US News and World Report to assist.</p>
<p class="h2_body">Steve Blackwell</p>
<h2 class="h2_body">IN SEARCH OF CHRISTMAS BY JEFFERY L. SHELER</h2>
<p class="intro">(Is it a “Christian” holiday, or manufactured out of Paganism and superstition?)</p>
<p>(<strong>US News and World Report</strong> Lead Article)</p>
<p>Imagine a purer, less commercial, more spiritual Christmas. But don’t call it history. The yearning begins with the first shimmer of tinsel on a streetlamp downtown, the first tree glimpsed through a frosty window, the first familiar notes filtering into consciousness at the grocery store or at the mall. It is a longing impervious to the assaults of the season: to the car salesmen dressed up as reindeer, the 1,652nd reprise of “White Christmas” on the radio, the 14th marital spat that ends with “She’s your relative!” And as the season ripens, it grows, displacing a year’s worth of weariness, cynicism and general, late-20th-century anxiety. You can see it in the eyes of a child dragging a Christmas tree across the snow in Maine, in the faces of carolers at New York City’s South Street Seaport, in the Santa hat atop a “cattle crossing” sign near Blanco, Texas.</p>
<p>Christmas is an American passion—96 percent of Americans say they celebrate it in some form, according to a recent U.S. News/Bozell poll. Yet for most people, the holiday triggers an intense search for some dimly remembered Christmas past, a nostalgia for a time when yuletide was more pious and more peaceful, when it was free of gaudy commercialism and focused more on the birth of the Savior than on the 20 percent-off sale at the local department store. The only problem is that, as historians are increasingly discovering, this purer, simpler, more spiritual past is more a product of our cultural imagination than of historical fact. A series of new studies suggests that the observance of Christmas was never an entirely religious affair, that many of the most popular seasonal traditions are relatively modern inventions and that complaints of crass overindulgence and gross commercialism are nearly as old as the holiday itself.</p>
<p><strong>An affront unto God.</strong> Through most of its history, the Christmas season has been a time of raucous revelry and bacchanalian indulgence more akin to Mardi Gras or New Year’s Eve than to a silent, holy night. So tarnished, in fact, was its reputation in colonial America that celebrating Christmas was banned in Puritan New England, where the noted minister Cotton Mather described yuletide merrymaking as “an affront unto the grace of God.” In a new book, The Battle for Christmas, University of Massachusetts history professor Stephen Nissenbaum describes the annual birthday celebration of the Prince of Peace as a perennial battleground for competing cultural, religious and economic forces. “There never was a time when Christmas existed as an unsullied domestic idyll, immune to the taint of commercialism,” Nissenbaum.</p>
<p><strong>The earliest celebrations of the Nativity were surprisingly late. </strong>There is no record of official observance of Christ’s birth until the fourth century, when Constantine, a Christian convert, was emperor of Rome. The absence of a Nativity celebration before then, scholars say, reflects at least in part the fact that no one knew for sure when Jesus was born. While some church traditions place his birth between 6 B.C. and 4 B.C.—near the end of the reign of Herod the Great—the gospels are silent on the year, let alone the exact month or day. Lacking any scriptural pointers to Jesus’s birthday, early Christian teachers suggested dates all over the calendar. Clement, a bishop of Alexandria who died circa A.D. 215, picked November 18. Hippolytus, a Roman theologian in the early third century, figured Christ must have been born on a Wednesday—the same day God created the sun. The De Pascha Computus, an anonymous document believed to have been written in North Africa around A.D. 243, placed Jesus’s birth on March 28, four days after the first day of spring. But even if they had known the date, says University of Texas historian Penne Restad, the earliest Christians simply weren’t interested in celebrating the Nativity. “They expected the Second Coming any day,” writes Restad in her 1995 book, Christmas in America: A History. To celebrate Christ’s birth would have seemed to them pointless. Moreover, she says, they “viewed birthday celebrations as heathen.” The third-century church father Origen had declared it a sin to even think of keeping Christ’s birthday “as though he were a king pharaoh.”</p>
<p><strong>Raised from the dead. </strong>What interested the early Christians more, historians say, was proclaiming the central message of their faith: that the crucified Christ had been raised from the dead. So important was the Resurrection to church life that the Apostle Paul, writing in about A.D. 56 to the church in Corinth, “If Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is in vain and your faith is in vain…. But in fact, Christ has been raised from the dead.” The early focus on the Resurrection explains why the Pascha, the Easter festival commemorating the Crucifixion and Resurrection of Jesus during the Jewish Passover, was the only annual celebration known to the early church, says Brian Daley, a theology professor at the University of Notre Dame. Today, Easter remains the most important event on the Christian calendar, even though 70 percent of Americans—including 62 percent of those who attend church regularly—told U.S. News/Bozell pollsters that they consider Christmas the most significant Christian holiday. The fact that the earliest gospel—St. Mark’s, written about A.D. 50—begins with the baptism of an adult Jesus at the start of his public ministry is yet another indication that the earliest Christians lacked interest in the Nativity, scholars say. Only St. Matthew’s and St. Luke’s gospels, written two to four decades later, include stories about Christ’s birth. By that time, says Paul Maier, professor of ancient history at Western Michigan University, “Christians, believing in both the divinity and humanity of Jesus, were curious to know how he came to be.” Even so, there is no mention in the New Testament of Christians gathering to commemorate the birth of Jesus. It was conflict that eventually propelled the church toward celebrating the Nativity, some scholars contend, as it attempted to counter heresies growing within its ranks. Among the most contentious of the heresies was Docetism, the belief that Christ was a spirit and did not possess a human body. “This had momentous significance for the Christian view of salvation,” says Paula Fredriksen, professor of ancient Christianity at Boston University. “If Christ had no body, then there was no bodily Crucifixion or Resurrection.” But by the fourth century, the official stand of the church in Rome was that Christ was raised in both body and spirit and, consequently, both the believer’s body and soul are redeemed in salvation. Celebrating the birth of Jesus then, says Fredriksen, “was one way of emphasizing that Christ had a real human body.”</p>
<p><strong>Matter of conjecture. </strong>Exactly when the church began celebrating Christmas, however, is unclear. The first mention of a Nativity feast, scholars say, appears in the Philocalian calendar, a Roman document from A.D. 354, which lists December 25 as the day of Jesus’s birth in Bethlehem of Judea. How the church arrived at December 25, when the actual date of Christ’s birth was unknown, is a matter of conjecture. Most widely held is the view that the holiday was an intentional “Christianization” of Saturnalia and other pagan festivals. In the third and fourth centuries, the church in Rome found itself in fierce competition with popular pagan religions and mystery cults, most of them involving sun worship. From the middle of December through the first of January, Romans would engage in feasts and drunken revelry, paying homage to their gods and marking the winter solstice, when days began to lengthen. In A.D. 274, Emperor Aurelian decreed December 25—the solstice on the Julian calendar—as natalis solis invicti (“birth of the invincible sun”), a festival honoring the sun god Mithras. In designating December 25 as the date for their Nativity feast, says Restad of the University of Texas, Rome’s Christians “challenged paganism directly.” They also were able to invoke rich biblical symbolism that described Jesus as the “Sun of Righteousness” and God’s “true light,” sent to dispel darkness in the world. A second view suggests that church leaders arrived at the December 25 date based on the belief, inherited from ancient Judaism, that significant religious figures are born and die on the same day of the month. One prominent church tradition of the time held that Jesus died on March 25—the same date as his conception, according to the tradition. Were that the case, he would have been born nine months later, on December 25. Whatever their reasons, by assigning Christmas to late December, when people already were accustomed to celebrating, church leaders ensured widespread observance of the Savior’s birth. But in doing so, says Nissenbaum, the church also “tacitly agreed to allow the holiday to be celebrated more or less the way it had always been.” As one historian put it: “The pagan Romans became Christians—but the Saturnalia remained.”</p>
<p>Not surprisingly, the combination of the sacred and the profane made some church leaders uncomfortable. St. Gregory of Nazianzus, a fourth-century theologian and bishop of Constantinople, cautioned against “feasting to excess, dancing and crowning the doors” and urged celebration of the Nativity “after an heavenly and not after an earthly manner.” But while there were always people for whom Christmas was a time of reverence rather than revelry, says Nissenbaum, “such people were in the minority.” Christmas, he says, “has always been an extremely difficult holiday to Christianize.” The custom of honoring Jesus’s birth on December 25 quickly spread to the Eastern Church, which at one time observed Epiphany, January 6, as a joint feast of the Nativity and the baptism of Jesus. Over the next 1,000 years, Christmas observance followed the expanding church from Egypt to northern Europe. In Scandinavia, it became entwined with a pagan midwinter feast known as yule. And by 1050, the words Christes maesse (“festival of Christ”) had entered the English language. “From the 13th century on,” notes Restad, “nearly all Europe kept Jesus’s birth.”</p>
<p><strong>Pagan pleasures. </strong>Indeed, they kept it much as the Romans had—in gluttonous feasts and raucous public revelry. Leading clergy, from time to time, tried to rein in abuses of Christmas merriment but usually to little avail. In England, Restad notes, “celebrants devoted much of the season to pagan pleasures . . . discouraged the remainder of the year.” Writing in 1725, Anglican minister Henry Bourne said the way most people behaved at Christmas was “a scandal to religion and an encouraging of wickedness.” For many, he said, Christmas was “a pretense for drunkenness and rioting and wantonness.” England’s Puritans inveighed against keeping the holiday at all and succeeded for a while in having it banned. The Puritans, says Nissenbaum, “were correct when they pointed out—and they pointed it out often—that Christmas was nothing but a pagan festival covered with a Christian veneer.” When Christmas landed on American shores, it fared little better. In colonial times, Christ’s birth was celebrated as a wildly social event—if it was celebrated at all. Virginians hunted and danced and feasted, while poor city dwellers partied and thronged the streets in boisterous demonstrations, often begging food and drink at the homes of the well-to-do. Puritans in New England flatly refused to observe the holiday. In some cities, says Nissenbaum, the rather benign English tradition of wassailing took on an increasingly menacing edge. In New York City and Philadelphia, bands of young men would march into houses of the wealthy, who were expected to proffer gifts of food and drink, sometimes in exchange for a song or an expression of goodwill. Often, says Nissenbaum, exchanges included “an explicit threat” as contained in one surviving wassail song: “We’ve come here to claim our right.… And if you don’t open up your door.… We will lay you flat upon the floor.” Variations on the practice were common. In some cities, Christmas revelers would cross-dress or wear blackface as they went noisily from door to door. But in each case, says Nissenbaum, Christmas exchanges amounted to a passing of goods from master to servant, patron to apprentice and wealthy to poor. It was a time, the historian says, “when the social hierarchy itself was symbolically turned upside down.” Into the early 19th century, quiet family celebrations and gift exchanges among family members were largely unknown. But Christmas in America was about to change. And when the changes came, they came quickly and quite deliberately. By the early 1820s, cities had mushroomed with industrialization and their Christmas celebrations had turned increasingly boisterous and sometimes violent. In 1828, according to Nissenbaum, New York City organized its first professional police force in response to a violent Christmas riot. A concerned group of New York patricians that included Washington Irving and Clement Clarke Moore, author of A Visit From St. Nicholas, began a campaign to bring Christmas off the streets into the family circle.</p>
<p><strong>Invented tradition. </strong>Moore’s classic poem, written in 1822, provided the new mythology for this Christmas makeover. Moore’s St. Nick—far from being the creature of ancient Dutch folklore—was an “invented tradition,” says Nissenbaum, “made up with the precise purpose of appearing old-fashioned.” To Moore’s patrician audience, the midnight visitor who “looked like a peddler” would have evoked plebeian wassailers. But rather than demanding food and drink, this “jolly” and unthreatening visitor bore gifts for the children who, until then, had played a rather insignificant role in Christmas celebrations. The poem quickly caught on, and newspapers soon began to editorialize about the “domestic enjoyments” of Christmas. Giving gifts to children and loved ones eventually supplanted the wassail as the mainstay of holiday celebration. And by the mid-19th century, what began in New York had spread throughout the country. Even some New England Presbyterians and Congregationalists, heirs to the Puritan legacy, became open celebrants of the Nativity. Christmas, says Nissenbaum, had been taken from the streets and domesticated. Not surprisingly, the nation’s merchants were favorably disposed to this turn of events. The new tradition of Christmas gift giving created an instant retail bonanza, and merchants and advertisers soon began to promote the season nearly as much as they promoted their wares. By the 1870s, one historian observes, “department stores often outdid the churches in religious adornment and symbolism, with pipe organs, choirs, and statues of saints and angels” in a manner that bathed “consumption in the reflected glory of Christianity.” Indeed, the holiday was on its way to becoming what Princeton University professor of religion Leigh Eric Schmidt called in his 1995 book, Consumer Rites, a “grand festival of consumption.” By the early 20th century, stores had largely abandoned overtly religious motifs, says Restad. But they “continued to undergo marvelous alteration at holiday time, becoming strikingly `other’ places.” As competition for the attention of holiday shoppers escalated, so did the Christmas displays. During the 1940s, Chicago’s Marshall Field &amp; Co. began to turn its huge department store into “a glittering fairyland” at Christmastime and each year came up with a secret new theme for its decorations.</p>
<p><strong>Santa on parade.</strong> To expand holiday profits, many stores made Thanksgiving the official springboard for Christmas sales; others started as early as Halloween. In 1920, Gimbels in Philadelphia organized the first Thanksgiving Day parade and featured Santa Claus as the main attraction. And in 1924, both Hudson’s in Detroit and Macy’s in New York followed suit. So vital was Thanksgiving in launching the Christmas season, says Restad, that commercial interests “conspired in resetting its date.” In 1939, after years of Depression-deflated sales, the head of Ohio’s Federated Department Stores argued that by advancing the date of Thanksgiving one week, six days of shopping would be added. Convinced by his logic, says Restad, President Franklin Roosevelt moved the feast from November 30 to November 23. And in 1941, Congress set the annual date of Thanksgiving as the fourth Thursday in November—ensuring a four-week shopping season each year. The nation’s recognition of Christmas as a powerful economic force had reached its highest levels. In the years since, the reinvented traditions of this modern American Christmas have permeated the culture through a potent combination of commerce and new communications media. Annual reruns of holiday television specials and films like Miracle on 34th Street have become rituals in themselves, homogenizing the Christmas experience for many Americans. And retailers have come to count on yuletide sales for up to 50 percent of their annual profits. The shopping season now pumps an estimated $37 billion into the nation’s economy—making the American Christmas larger than the gross national product of Ireland. What many historians find most fascinating about the reinvention of Christmas is that its commercialization, now so frequently denounced, is what spawned the transformation in the first place.</p>
<p>The “commercial forms” associated with Christmas and other holidays, says Schmidt of Princeton, “have become integral to their survival.” The consumer culture “shapes our holidays,” Schmidt says, “by taking in diverse, local traditions and creating relatively common ones.” To turn Christmas into a purely religious celebration now might cheer those who want to “take back Christmas,” he says. But such an observance “would lack the cultural resonance and impact of a holiday deeply rooted in the marketplace.” If Christmas came to that, adds Restad, “we probably wouldn’t keep it as a society.”</p>
<p><strong>Piety or profit.</strong> Yet there seems little danger of that happening. Christmas has far too powerful a grip on American culture: It is no more the church’s sole possession today than it was in ancient Rome. But given its long history of controversy and the unremitting tension between piety and profit in its observance, the “battle for Christmas” is all but certain to persist. No matter how people choose to keep it—in the quiet of their homes or churches, or in the noisy cathedrals of suburban shopping malls—the arrival of Christmas, says Restad, prods celebrants once again to “confront our ideals” and to “examine our relationships with our families, our communities and our faith.” Adds Nissenbaum: Christmas rituals, whether old or new, sacred or secular, will serve as they always have to “transfigure our ordinary behavior” in ways that reveal “something of what we would like to be, what we once were or what we are becoming despite ourselves.” As thoughts return to a Bethlehem manger, the search begins again. And, at least for a season, it seems “peace on Earth, goodwill toward men” might be possible after all.</p>
<p>BY JEFFERY L. SHELER</p>
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