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		<description><![CDATA[Due to the increased interest in this letter I have decided to re-post it. It was originally posted 2-18-2006. The letter contains many thing that will assist others in approaching their Church leadership and in making the hard decisions of whether or not to leave organized religion and to seek God on His terms apart [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Due to the increased interest in this letter I have decided to re-post it. It was originally posted 2-18-2006. The letter contains many thing that will assist others in approaching their Church leadership and in making the hard decisions of whether or not to leave organized religion and to seek God on His terms apart from the general failure of the institution. </p>
<p>Steve Blackwell </p>
<p align="center"><b> Initial Contact with Kerry Bowman</b></p>
<p align="center"><i>Head Pastor of Eagle Church</i></p>
<p>Kerry,</p>
<p>I have become very disappointed in the path the Church is taking. I especially am upset with the way you openly link arms with the world in this leadership simulcast thing. What advise can the world give the Lord’s people on how to conduct business or anything else? Doesn’t the Bible make it perfectly clear that we are to pull back from the world? Shouldn’t the leader of Eagle Church be giving advice to stay away from the world as much as possible, not joining forces with them at every opportunity? How can you not expect to receive judgment for openly leading your congregation into sin? And, I simply cannot believe that other, supposedly followers of Christ, leaders, deacons, or just plain Godly people have not spoken up that you stop this absurdity. Has the Organized Church come to blatant, open, rebellion, against God? I can assure you that the Lord is not happy with this new direction. I am preparing an open letter to the congregation to alert them of your unfaithfulness to your position in the Church and to your calling if there is no repentance. The Churches across this land are falling into a very dangerous trap and the leaders will be held responsible to God for the loss of so many souls. I for one will not be silent. I have seen this coming and it is madness.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the FATHER is not in him.&#8221; &#8220;Ye adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with GOD? Whosoever therefore would be a friend of the world maketh himself an enemy of GOD.&#8221; &#8220;Be not unequally yoked with unbelievers; for what fellowship have righteousness and iniquity? or what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath CHRIST with Belial? or what portion hath a believer with an unbeliever?. . .Wherefore: —Come out from amonst them.&#8221; </i></p>
<p>Your immediate response is requested.</p>
<p>Steve Blackwell</p>
<p align="center">**************************************</p>
<p align="center">&nbsp;</p>
<p align="center"><b>Open Letter to Eagle Church</b></p>
<p><b>ALARM!</b></p>
<p>Ezek 33:1-6<br />
<i>The word of the LORD came to me: &#8220;Son of man, speak to your countrymen and say to them: &#8216;When I bring the sword against a land, and the people of the land choose one of their men and make him their watchman, and he sees the sword coming against the land and blows the trumpet to warn the people, then if anyone hears the trumpet but does not take warning and the sword comes and takes his life, his blood will be on his own head. Since he heard the sound of the trumpet but did not take warning, his blood will be on his own head. If he had taken warning, he would have saved himself. But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet to warn the people and the sword comes and takes the life of one of them, that man will be taken away because of his sin, but I will hold the watchman accountable for his blood.”</i></p>
<p>My name is Steve Blackwell. I am not on the membership roles of Eagle or any other Organized Church, but my name is written in the Lamb’s book of life, and that is sufficient. I have been part of the Body here at Eagle since it was built and have watched the transition over the last several years.</p>
<p>This e-mail is being sent to all whose e-mail address is listed in the Church directory, and the Church leadership is receiving it at the same time you are. This e-mail is not being sent without the Pastor awareness. A personal note was sent to Pastor Kerry alerting him of my concern and asking for his response. He has chosen not to respond.</p>
<p>The direction that “The Church” is taking is very serious. I am not saying I have all the facts yet, but I have enough to sound a general alarm.</p>
<p>About a year and a half ago an alarm started going off in my spirit alerting me to a terrible problem we have in our nation and in our Church. This alarm has caused me to change my life radically and with the help of the Holy Spirit I will tell you some of what I know.</p>
<p>You may not agree with what I am about to say but I am obliged to fulfill my duty as a member of the Body of Christ to sound this alarm. It would be irresponsible of me not to do so. If you smelled smoke in your home, in the middle of the night, while every one was sleeping, you would conclude rapidly that your family was in grave danger. Your sense of survival would compel you to take action and save your family and yourself.</p>
<p>Being a Christian is not about doing the easy things and having fun; it is about being obedient and doing the hard things, even at the cost of breaking fellowship with the ones you have come to love. I am neither a highly educated man nor particularly courageous, I am only being obedient in what has been revealed to me through my spirit to warn any and all who will listen of the obvious darkness appearing on the spiritual landscape. Because of this revelation my family and I have elected to leave Eagle Church and continue with the meetings of the Church in our home.</p>
<p>I cannot but think that this message will, at the very least, cause some to investigate these claims further, with the hope that the Holy Spirit would enlighten you. These are grave times we are living in, a time to be awake and not asleep, a time to read your Bible again for the first time, and to think seriously about events relating to the end of time.</p>
<p>What I am saying is that I smell smoke and many others, across this nation and the world, also smell smoke. So please do not pull the covers back over your head, at least consider what I have to say. The first smell of smoke is no indication of just how bad the problem is, it may be minor or it may already be too late, but it can not be ignored.</p>
<p>I am not an “alarmist” by nature or a preacher of “doom and gloom.” I am a Christian realist, and what I am saying is with genuine concern. Where there is smoke there is fire, and the fire of the kind I am talking about has very severe consequences and can not be disregarded.</p>
<p>There has never been a time in all of Church history that has stood out with a more urgent cry to its people than today. There has never been a time when understanding and discernment were more needed, but rarely to be found. There has never been a time like this, where the ability to smell smoke was so needed. The alarm was being sounded as late as the 70’s by people like A. W. Tozer, Watchman Nee, and T Austin Sparks but, has been generally ignored; then there was relative silence. Now, the alarms are being sounded again and they are coming in from every quarter, from around the world.</p>
<p>As I said earlier, alarms started going off in my spirit, a short while back.  I have been a Christian for thirty years and nothing like this has ever happened before. In those thirty years of serving God and seeking the “good life” the “good life” had never been produced. I followed all the direction of the different preachers I sat under and read my Bible through many times, but the promise of happiness never materialized the way they predicted. My life was very ordinary, not rich, not poor, just your average person. I was not from a Christian home, but my mom and dad were good people and had Christian values, by default more than practice. We were just a normal average family with all the regular amount of chaos to deal with, seeking the American Dream.</p>
<p>I had this illusion that I was living the exemplary Christian life. Once saved, I quit my insurance sales job because of lifestyle conflicts, Marilyn, my wife, was a stay-at-home-mom, we sent our three girls to Christian schools, went to Church three times a week, worked hard and went to Bible college, we watched very little T.V., and rarely went out on the town, and never to bars or clubs. We were often complemented for our disciplined life style, and we were blessed in many respects, but something was lacking.  The chaos and problems we were seeing in other’s lives started showing up in our lives also, and our normal, average, American Christian lifestyle started coming apart at the seams. A year and a half ago the Lord re-entered my life in a very dramatic way after going through a kind of spiritual death. When He revived me I at once realized I was seeing things through different eyes and had a new understanding, as if I had been blind before this. The Bible, which I have studied continuously for the past thirty years, became a totally new book, as if I had never understood it at all in the past.</p>
<p><b>The First Alarm</b></p>
<p>I do not blame any of my past Ministers; I had all the same resources that they had, even though they had put themselves in the position of knowing the will and direction of God. They all talked about attaining to the “good life” and led their flocks down rosy paths, and rarely spoke of the extreme cost associated with such a venture. So, what I ended up with was a religion of the flesh, which was little different, in its final results, than the flesh of the world I had left behind. This is precisely the reason that statistics, of divorce, pornography, and abortion, inside the Church and outside the Church read the same; it is the same worldliness only dressed up in a different costume. This was the first Alarm! A very simple observation; there was no difference of quality of life of those inside and outside the Church, none.</p>
<p>Immediately prior to this renewal, I had laid out a set of questions to the Lord in the context of frustration; something like this: why Lord? Why this? Why that? Why me? Haven’t I tried to do all you wanted me to do? Why? Why? Why? And then I just gave up on ever hoping to receive an answer; I just slipped into death. It took me thirty years of building up a history of failure to finally realize that the Lord had allowed me to become an utter failure so that I could know Him in the power of His resurrection. I had never died before, like the Bible teaches that we should. I only died on paper, my certificate of baptism, not like Paul describes in chapter six of the book of Romans. And, it was at this point that He showed me my problem, and my problem was me; I was still alive in the flesh. I had never died with Christ. Now I understood that all that stuff about death and dying, that I had read through all those years past, was the secret threshold that had to be crossed that opened up the new life of trust and faith, a life lived by walking in the Spirit and not in the flesh. This is a life of really believing that God is able to do all He said He would, and walking in that belief; after all, what can a dead man do? Dead men don’t build Churches.</p>
<p><b>The Second Alarm</b></p>
<p>The Holy Spirit brought to me, with great force, that all the problems of the world that we hated, were present in the Church, that the world had successfully and completely infiltrated the Church, and that what we are seeing in the Organized Church today is the ultimate completion of a grand plan arranged by Satan himself. Actually you don’t have to look very hard or be very smart to see it; you only have to open your eyes.</p>
<p>The Church in America has failed. Drugs are in the Church, abortion, divorce, pornography, they’re all there, just like on the outside, and in some cases the Church exceeds the world. Even a small child can add 1 + 1. Even a novice businessman can see the failure of the Church as a Christ building business. Unless of course you’re looking at the money, then you might see some success and a motive to keep the Organized Church going. The Church as a numbers game does have promise, as we are seeing. So, Paul’s words that <i>“your meetings do more harm than good,” </i>really apply to the modern Church. If a person from the world comes to the Church seeking solutions, he or she will not likely find the ultimate answer, the answer they need.</p>
<p><b>The Third Alarm</b></p>
<p>The third alarm was a simple fact. All that I had read in the Bible for so many years just did not add up in real life and in the Church in America. Example #1, Jesus asked Peter who he said He was and Peter said, <i>“You are the Christ, the Son of the Living God.”</i> Jesus said to Peter that he had just received a supernatural revelation from the Holy Spirit and that upon this revelation, of who Jesus really was, His Church would be built and that <i>“the gates of Hell will not prevail against it.”</i> But, is that what we actually see with our own two eyes in America? No! In America the gates of Hell are prevailing. Americans have slipped into a coma and sin is out of control. Why? The Biblical conclusion is that we have departed the narrow path; we are pursuing <i>“another gospel,”</i> the American Dream, which is turning out to be a nightmare and completely off the narrow path. The dream of the “good life,” as we have come to know it in America, is an illusion and we are a country lost, in search of something that doesn’t exist. What we are given are policies, programs, more programs, creeds, and classes that have failed one after the other, but never led down that narrow way of dying to the flesh where the real answer awaits. The ways of men have never produced holiness, which is what our soul hungers for, in any of its people and can never prevail against the gates of Hell.</p>
<p>Example #2, In 2 Tim 3:12-13 Paul states as a matter of fact that <i>“everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted….”</i> Well, the obvious question is, who do we know that is being persecuted in America? If we want to find persecution we need to look in India, or China, or other places, but not in America. Why don’t we see persecution in America? Because what we say from our pulpits and the lives we live are no threat to Satan and his kingdom. I would dare say that he is very happy with the message; it is very social, very tolerant, very non-offensive, and very attractive to the world. One solution, to the problem of not being persecuted, might be to seek out those who are being persecuted and find out what they are doing and copy them. If we did we would very likely find that we too would begin to run into evil forces who do not take lightly the message of truth. We are a sick and dying bunch in America, who only has the appearance of health. If we would only be weak and humble, then would we be strong and healthy. If we would only be obedient with the simple message of truth instead of hiding the light under all our worldly programs then we too would discover that dark forces oppose the children of Light.</p>
<p>Example #3, The cost of following Jesus. All the scripture given in the Bible would lead one to believe that the cost of following Jesus is beyond money and resources, and will cost your very life, indeed it will cost you everything, money, resources, and your life, to follow Jesus. Here are just a few of the cost that are enumerated in the Bible:<br />
What is the cost of discipleship?<br />
1.    The true follower of Jesus must leave everything to follow Him, meaning that Jesus must have first priority in our life, over anything, or anyone else.<br />
2.    Another cost is to deny oneself.  To do the will of Jesus is to be more important than our own selfish ambitions and desires. We should pray, not my will, but yours be done.<br />
3.    We are to follow Him unconditionally and not let the concerns of this world prevent us. A total separation from worldliness and a total commitment to Jesus is required. In Luke 9: 57 to 62, we read of three people who desired to be disciples of Jesus, but their priorities were not right.  Jesus required their undivided attention and loyalty, but they were more concerned with possessions, personal gain, their livelihood and families. A person who does not put Jesus first cannot be a true follower.<br />
4.    Another cost of following Jesus is that we must Love Him supremely, from our whole heart, even more than we love ourselves and more than those closest to us, even our wife or children. Jesus said, &#8220;He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me&#8221; (Matthew 10:37) and for those of you who say, “It doesn’t mention ‘wife’” read Luke 14:26. In comparison to the love we have for Jesus, it is like hating those who in the natural sense are closest to us (Luke 14:26). This does not mean we do not love our family members; rather, Jesus used this expression as a means of comparison.<br />
5.    We must be willing to sacrifice for the sake of following Jesus. There may be a heavy price we must pay to follow Jesus with utmost commitment.  For some, it may mean giving up extra income, or giving up comforts, even giving up position, honor, or reputation. Let us have the attitude of the Apostle Paul who said, <i>&#8220;But indeed I also count all things loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as rubbish, that I may gain Christ&#8221;</i> (Philippians 3:8). Do you really believe this?<br />
6.    As followers we are to count the cost, and consider the hardships that will arise for the sake of Jesus. It could cause much division in the home, if one or two are believers in Jesus and the others are not. With this scenario in mind, Jesus said, <i>&#8220;Do you suppose that I came to give peace on earth? I tell you, not at all, but rather division.  For from now on five in one house will be divided: three against two, and two against three. Father will be divided against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother . . . &#8220;</i> (Luke 12:51-53). Converts to Christianity from other religions have experienced division and have even been abandoned and cast out by their families (Matthew 24:9). For them, there is no peace on earth, and yet they do have peace in their hearts, for they have peace with God and they will one day have peace in eternity with God.<br />
7.    Another cost of following Jesus is total surrender (Luke 14:33) and undying allegiance. We are to follow Him always, go wherever He leads, and obey His every command. He commands that we repent of sin; submit our wills, renew our minds, be baptized, consecrate our hearts, worship Him and have full and complete obedience to Him.<br />
8.    This brings us to the eighth item in our list of what it costs to follow Jesus&#8230; we must be willing to submit to Him, keep His commandments, and live a life worthy of bearing His name, that of being a &#8220;Christian.&#8221; Jesus said, <i>&#8220;If you love Me, keep My commandments&#8221;</i> (John 14:15). Every aspect of our life must be God-honoring.<br />
9.    Lastly, to use the expression of Jesus, the true follower must &#8220;carry his cross&#8221; and follow Jesus (Luke 14:27).  This means that we must endure pain, suffering, persecution (Philippians 1:29), and to even be willing to die for Him. The Apostle Paul exhorted the young man Timothy, &#8220;You therefore must endure hardship as a good soldier of Jesus Christ&#8221; (2 Timothy 2:3).<br />
I had fooled myself for years, and that foolishness was reinforced by the Church leaders, that I was O.K. with the Lord, when all along I was being deceived by Satan. The cost to follow Christ today has been so cheapened that a multitude of Pagans flood the church sanctuary looking for a free lunch; at the most it only cost a little in the collection plate, and they go home satisfied that they have worshiped God and all-is-well with their souls. We only delude ourselves into believing that we have paid the cost, but it has cost us nothing.</p>
<p>I could go on and on with numerous examples of how our lives do not measure up to what we read in the Bible, but you can read it for yourself, it is all there, on every page, you don’t need that any man should show you.</p>
<p>A little more then I’m done. These things were the beginning of my enlightenment. It never came through study but by the Holy Spirit through revelation, it just flashed upon me and I could see. The Holy Spirit has given me much insight into His Word and speaks to my spirit often now. What I have come to know now is that very much that goes on inside the Organized Church walls is totally worthless and that what is called the “church growth movement” is of the Devil and this is the main point of this letter.</p>
<p>Holy Scripture makes lots of things clear and one of those things is that man was born blind and has no capability to see unless sight is given to him by God. Man, in and of himself, is a stumbling, blind, creature. And also, it is clear that that blindness is through the deception of Satan. The Bible says he is the deceiver of the WHOLE world. It also says that in the end Satan will be cast into the bottomless pit, that serpent that deceived whole nations.  Is it conceivable that the people of America have believed a lie? Is it possible that through our disobedience and pride that God has allowed us to continue in that lie? Is it possible that we have gotten so involved in the lie that we won’t believe the Truth? Is it possible that we love the lie more than the Truth? Is it possible that we believe the Lie to be the Truth? All these things are possible as the Bible states and also that in the last days before Jesus’ return, we should expect these things, and be on our guard. The sad thing is that many who we call brother and sister will never see the Truth and continue on in their delusion. But, there will be some that will see and come out from amongst them.</p>
<p><b>The Fifth Alarm</b></p>
<p>Don’t get caught up in the bigness or business of the Organized Church. This should be another sign that something is wrong. Bigness, showiness, loudness, drama, twin video screens, gymnasiums, the mysterious disappearance of the Cross, and the like are all geared to appeal to the flesh and the world and are not of Christ; it is of man for man. As I said earlier it is a numbers game. The contention is that the end justifies the means, the end being that the Church will get large numbers of unbelievers into the building to hear the message. This is a lie. With Christ the ends never ever justified the means, never. The Lord doesn’t need the help of godless unbelievers to build His Church; He never has and never will, Not Rick Warren, Bill Hybels, not Robert Schuller, not Peter Drucker, not Bob Buford, or the worldly methodologies used by them such as,  Hegelian dialectics or Diaprax, thesis and antithesis, change agents, new paradigms or any other thing. A few have tried to warn us about this new “marketing and managing of the Church” movement: John MacArthur, and Oz Guinness to name a couple. Tozer warned that the Church was coming to this, and in 1 Tim 4:1-2 <i>“The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.”</i></p>
<p>2 Peter 2:1-3</p>
<p><i>&#8220;But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber.&#8221;<br />
</i><br />
For the Church to openly admit that it is committing spiritual adultery with the world and not blink an eye is beyond me, and as far as I know none of the leadership is objecting. The Scriptures are explicit in this regard:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the FATHER is not in him.&#8221; &#8220;Ye adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with GOD? Whosoever therefore would be a friend of the world maketh himself an enemy of GOD.&#8221; &#8220;Be not unequally yoked with unbelievers; for what fellowship have righteousness and iniquity? or what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath CHRIST with Belial? or what portion hath a believer with an unbeliever?. . .Wherefore: —&#8221;</i></p>
<p><i>&#8220;Come ye out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord,<br />
And touch no unclean thing;<br />
And I will receive you,<br />
And will be to you a FATHER,<br />
And ye shall be to Me sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.&#8221;<br />
</i><br />
We have to take our choice: we cannot enjoy both the world and CHRIST. Pastor Kerry in one of his last e-mails admitted that some of these who would be <i><b>“impacting”</b></i> you are  NON-Christians. Should shepherds lead God’s flock where He says danger waits?</p>
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<p>At a time in our history when we should be getting back to the basics of God’s Word and the simplicity found in Jesus, the Church is exploding into madness and heresy and open fornication with the world, and sincerely believes that God will bless it!</p>
<p>There is so much more that needs to be said but, I don’t know how to say it. All the Prophets and the Apostles foreseen these days and warned those who would live during the Last Days and we are “those” people. The alarms are sounding now. That little cloud on the horizon, we realize now, is a storm cloud, and it’s headed our way. I am afraid for many who will pull the covers over their head, push the snooze button, and just go back to sleep. “We live in America, what can harm us here?” We boast that “we are America” and that “there is no other” and while we sleep, we will be taken away, without another warning.</p>
<p>I know these words will draw fire and I fully expect it and am prepared for it. Not all will see the urgency. This letter, for most, will only be the ramblings of a silly man trying to spoil the fun and fellowship of God’s people.  For a few others it will be the signal to flee the wrath to come. I have never advocated that anyone take my word for anything, but check it out for your self. I will be praying for you.</p>
<p>I have fulfilled my duty to the Body of Christ @ Eagle.</p>
<p>May God bless you, and have mercy on us all.</p>
<p>Steve Blackwell</p>
<p align="center">**********************************</p>
<p align="center">&nbsp;</p>
<p align="center"><b>Rebuttal by Tim Swarens</b></p>
<p align="center"><i>Vice Chairman of Eagle’s Board of Elders </i></p>
<p align="left">May 1, 2006</p>
<p>Eagle Church Family</p>
<p>Many of you recently received a lengthy e-mail from Steve Blackwell, who used to attend Eagle. As vice chairman of Eagle’s Board of Elders, I would like to respond to various assertions Mr. Blackwell made in his letter. Another elder and I will attempt to meet with Mt. Blackwell later this week. As always, if you have questions or concerns regarding this or any other matter, please feel free to contact me or another elderly directly.<br />
It’s important to note that Mr. Blackwell’s letter was sent without the knowledge of Eagle’s pastoral staff or elders. An e-mail was sent to Pastor Bowman late Friday informing of Mr. Blackwell’s intention to send the letter, but the message was not read until after the letter was distributed Saturday to about 300 e-mail addresses.<br />
Among the accusations that Mr. Blackwell made in his letter is the claim that “the Organized Church today is the ultimate completion of a grand plan arranged by Satan himself.” I have no idea how Mr. Blackwell arrived at this conclusion, but such accusations are not new. In Mark 3:22, the teachers of the law asserted that Jesus himself “is possessed by Beelzebub! By the prince of demons he is driving out demons.” in verse 23-29, Jesus responded to his accusation by saying, “How can Satan drive out Satan? If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand&#8230;”<br />
Look at Eagle in the past month: More than 900 of us celebrated the resurrection of our Lord and Savior on Easter Sunday. In the latest sermon series, Pastor Kerry challenged us not to turn Jesus into our personal mascot, but to make him our Monarch. Pastor Eric challenged small group members to confront and repent of sin in their lives. Pastor Brad and his team challenged us with dynamic, powerful worship and praise. Clint and Jen challenged high school and middle school students to grow in their faith through weekly teaching and through the Believe Conference at Anderson University. Pat Dragon challenged our children through, yes, fun, but also substantive teaching in our rainbow of zones on the lower level, plus the monthly KidStuf service.  We have sent a team of short term missionaries to Spain. We have begun preparing missionary teams for service this summer in Bosnia and Louisiana. We have prayed for and supported missionaries around the world, including our own Petula Myers in Bosnia. We have prayed for and comforted the sick, the hurting, the poor and the downcast. We have challenged one another, loved one another, and worshipped with one another as only the Body of Christ can do.<br />
Above it all we have been privileged to witness lives changed for eternity. Just yesterday, several people came to accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. Others were baptized. And hundreds of others were challenged by Pastor Kerry to live their lives fully for Christ.<br />
Eagle is “the ultimate completion of a grand plan arranged by Satan himself”? I think not. More important, I am confident that Jesus himself thinks not, but is in fact rejoicing at the souls saved and the lives transformed.<br />
Mr. Blackwell also condemns Eagle’s leaders and other evangelical leaders such as Bill Hybels and Rick Warren for playing “a numbers game.” Again, such criticism is not new. For decades, some Christians protested outside Billy Graham’s crusades because he was using the “wrong” methods and associating with the “wrong” people. The Rev. Graham was “too worldly” for these believers. I believe Jesus would point such critics to Luke 6: 37-45. He also could point them to 1 Corinthians 9: 19-23, including this passage written by the Apostle Paul, “I have become all things to all men so that by all possible means I might save some.”<br />
Please believe that Eagle’s pastor and elders strive to do everything for the sake of the gospel. Do we make mistakes? Yes, we are fallible humans who at times unintentionally irritate and even hurt fellow believers. We always will listen to concerns and correction honestly and humbly given. We will strive to correct true mistakes and lower obstacles that keep believers from growing in their faith. But we will never apologize for answering the call to introduce a lost and hurting world to a friend and savior named Jesus Christ.<br />
Finally, I do agree with one statement Mr. Blackwell made in his letter: “With Christ the end never justified the means.” that includes following the principles outlined in Matthew 18 for correcting a fellow Christian whom you believe is in error. Practicing those principles is essential for the healthy operation of Eagle Church or any other church. I pray, as an elder at Eagle, that each of us would follow Matthew 18 principles as we strive to serve together in Christ’s church. Thank you and God bless.</p>
<p>In Christ</p>
<p>Tim Swarens,<br />
Vice chairman, Elder Board<br />
Eagle Church</p>
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<p align="center"><b>Rebuttal of the Rebuttal</b></p>
<p align="center"><i>by Steve Blackwell</i></p>
<p align="left">A Rebuttal of the Rebuttal</p>
<p>Steve Blackwell</p>
<p>May 15, 2006</p>
<p>To All My Friends @ Eagle Church:</p>
<p>Of course you are all aware of the open letter I sent to Eagle Church. It was my intention to say my piece and then just let it go, but upon further thought and prayer I have decided to say something more.</p>
<p>In England they love to hunt fox; it is a great contest of hunter and dog skill. I mention this, not because what I’m doing is some sort of sport to be won or lost, but because of a tactic used, unfairly, to spoil the sport of the hunt. The night before the hunt, while no one is watching, a member of the opposing team would pull a little stunt to confuse the dogs. He would take a dead fish (red herring) and drag it across the field in front of where the opponent’s dogs would start. Dogs, even well trained dogs, depend on and are controlled by their sense of smell; they both love to hunt and to eat. Older dogs can overcome this trick through discipline, but younger dogs will give in to their appetite and follow the smell of the red herring. This trick has one purpose, and that is to throw the dogs off the trail of the fox to follow a false trail.</p>
<p>Tim Swaren’s rebuttal is a red herring, or worse, it is subterfuge, chaff, rubbish; I could have used stronger words but I’m trying to be polite. He is using his hunting skills of deception to manipulate the congregation’s, supposed ignorance, and lead them onto a different path. He knows that if the main issues of my letter are kept silent and played down they will go away; people have a short memory; they want to believe in their Pastor; they want to be kept out of such things; they want to think that everything is peachy, even if its not; they don’t want to be confused by the facts. He is purposely leading people away from facing the issues addressed, by focusing on incidentals and side issues, and skirting around major issues of unfaithfulness and worldly dealings and methodologies which are contrary to God’s word. The issues he stresses in his rebuttal concern only me, but the questions he avoids in my letter, if they are valid, concern the whole body, and have eternal consequences.</p>
<p>Red herrings are usually employed to avoid having to face an issue where the findings will not likely be favorable, so it becomes necessary to raise other issues, by re-stating the questions using different words, and directed at dirtying the questioner’s character. We see this all the time in politics and it is very effective, and it is also deceptive and dishonest, especially coming from the vice chairman of the board of Elders, who handles ethical issues. This in itself is worthy of investigation.</p>
<p>I am not trying to protect my character from assault but rather allowing the light of the Gospel to shine in truth. Let the assaults come, I make no defense for myself, the Word of God can speak for itself, and it is speaking loudly for those who can hear.</p>
<p>I want to apologize if my approach to the situation affected the Body in any adverse way by not adhering to the strict rule of “conflict resolution” as found in Matt. 18, although it would not have changed a thing, and as it turns out it was exactly the right thing to do. To allow the deacon board to have its shot at me before the mail went out, in hind sight, probably wouldn’t have been a good idea.</p>
<p>I am going to clarify a couple of things I said in my letter, that I assumed anyone with knowledge of the Bible would have understood.</p>
<p><b>No. 1</b>     “The Holy Spirit brought to me, with great force, that all the problems of the world that we hated, were present in the Church, that the world had successfully and completely infiltrated the Church, and that what we are seeing in the Organized Church today is the ultimate completion of a grand plan arranged by Satan himself.”</p>
<p>Tim said that he has no idea how I arrived at this conclusion, and then aligns me with the Pharisees, asserting, like the “leadership” of Jesus day, that Jesus possessed a devil. I am surprised that an Elder, especially the vice chairman, could make that statement, but I shouldn’t be considering the Bible forecast such blindness in the last days. To begin with I stated right in the letter how I came to that conclusion; I opened my eyes, or I should say the Lord opened my eyes, and then the Bible confirmed what I saw. It’s funny that he would use Mark 3:22-29 as his proof text, because it proves my point. The Pharisees accused Jesus of having an evil spirit; now we know that that is impossible. Is Tim saying that it is also impossible for the organized church to be deceived? Is he putting himself and the church on the same level as Jesus? Does he really believe that he and the church are perfect and above reproach?</p>
<p>Jesus Himself was trying to reason with the organized religion of His day, but they simply could not see it, they were blind; the blind leading the blind.  In Matt 23:13-36 Jesus confronts organized religion with these words:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;You&#8217;re hopeless, you religion scholars and Pharisees! Frauds! You go halfway around the world to make a convert, but once you get him you make him into a replica of yourselves, double-damned. &#8220;</i></p>
<p><i>&#8220;You&#8217;re hopeless! What arrogant stupidity! You say, &#8216;If someone makes a promise with his fingers crossed, that&#8217;s nothing; but if he swears with his hand on the Bible, that&#8217;s serious.&#8217; What ignorance! Does the leather on the Bible carry more weight than the skin on your hands? And what about this piece of trivia: &#8216;If you shake hands on a promise, that&#8217;s nothing; but if you raise your hand that God is your witness, that&#8217;s serious&#8217;? What ridiculous hairsplitting! What difference does it make whether you shake hands or raise hands? A promise is a promise. What difference does it make if you make your promise inside or outside a house of worship? A promise is a promise. God is present, watching and holding you to account regardless. &#8220;</i></p>
<p><i>&#8220;You&#8217;re hopeless, you religion scholars and Pharisees! Frauds! You keep meticulous account books, tithing on every nickel and dime you get, but on the meat of God&#8217;s Law, things like fairness and compassion and commitment — the absolute basics! — you carelessly take it or leave it. Careful bookkeeping is commendable, but the basics are required. Do you have any idea how silly you look, writing a life story that&#8217;s wrong from start to finish, nitpicking over commas and semicolons? &#8220;</i></p>
<p><i>&#8220;You&#8217;re hopeless, you religion scholars and Pharisees! Frauds! You burnish the surface of your cups and bowls so they sparkle in the sun, while the insides are maggoty with your greed and gluttony. Stupid Pharisee! Scour the insides, and then the gleaming surface will mean something. &#8220;</i></p>
<p>&#8220;You&#8217;re hopeless, you religion scholars and Pharisees! Frauds! You&#8217;re like manicured grave plots, grass clipped and the flowers bright, but six feet down it&#8217;s all rotting bones and worm-eaten flesh. People look at you and think you&#8217;re saints, but beneath the skin you&#8217;re total frauds.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;You&#8217;re hopeless, you religion scholars and Pharisees! Frauds! You build granite tombs for your prophets and marble monuments for your saints. And you say that if you had lived in the days of your ancestors, no blood would have been on your hands. You protest too much! You&#8217;re cut from the same cloth as those murderers, and daily add to the death count. &#8220;</i></p>
<p><i>&#8220;Snakes! Reptilian sneaks! Do you think you can worm your way out of this? Never have to pay the piper? It&#8217;s on account of people like you that I send prophets and wise guides and scholars generation after generation — and generation after generation you treat them like dirt, greeting them with lynch mobs, hounding them with abuse.&#8221;<br />
</i><br />
<i>&#8220;You can&#8217;t squirm out of this: Every drop of righteous blood ever spilled on this earth, beginning with the blood of that good man Abel right down to the blood of Zechariah, Barachiah&#8217;s son, whom you murdered at his prayers, is on your head. All this, I&#8217;m telling you, is coming down on you, on your generation.</i> &#8221;</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Jerusalem! Jerusalem! Murderer of prophets! Killer of the ones who brought you God&#8217;s news! How often I&#8217;ve ached to embrace your children, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you wouldn&#8217;t let me. And now you&#8217;re so desolate, nothing but a ghost town. What is there left to say? Only this: I&#8217;m out of here soon. The next time you see me you&#8217;ll say, &#8216;Oh, God has blessed him! He&#8217;s come, bringing God&#8217;s rule!&#8217;&#8221; </i></p>
<p>I wonder if Jesus adhered to Matt. 18 concerning conflict resolution?</p>
<p>But to be more specific concerning Satan’s desire to infiltrate the church, here are some Scripture references:</p>
<p>Jer 8:4-7<br />
<i>&#8220;&#8216;When men fall down, do they not get up?<br />
When a man turns away, does he not return?<br />
Why then have these people turned away?<br />
Why does Jerusalem always turn away?<br />
They cling to deceit;<br />
they refuse to return.<br />
I have listened attentively,<br />
but they do not say what is right.<br />
No one repents of his wickedness,<br />
saying, &#8220;What have I done?&#8221;<br />
Each pursues his own course<br />
like a horse charging into battle.<br />
Even the stork in the sky<br />
knows her appointed seasons,<br />
and the dove, the swift and the thrush<br />
observe the time of their migration.<br />
But my people do not know<br />
the requirements of the LORD. &#8221;<br />
</i><br />
This is a reference to the then present infiltration of Satan into the Jewish religious institution during the time of Jeremiah. It is also indicative of an ever repeating cycle in mans search for God. We cling to deceit! We have fallen and we need to get up! We have turned away and we need to return! We have strayed far from the requirements of the LORD. He doesn’t mention Satan by name, so are we to deduce that there was some other reason for their stupidity? No! It is Satan at work here and it is Satan at work always. It has always been Satan’s plan to destroy the Church, from the inside out. This is why judgment will start at the House of God.</p>
<p>Mark 12:1-11<br />
<i>He then began to speak to them in parables: &#8220;A man planted a vineyard. He put a wall around it, dug a pit for the winepress and built a watchtower. Then he rented the vineyard to some farmers and went away on a journey. At harvest time he sent a servant to the tenants to collect from them some of the fruit of the vineyard. But they seized him, beat him and sent him away empty-handed. Then he sent another servant to them; they struck this man on the head and treated him shamefully. He sent still another, and that one they killed. He sent many others; some of them they beat, others they killed.<br />
&#8220;He had one left to send, a son, whom he loved. He sent him last of all, saying, &#8216;They will respect my son.&#8217;<br />
&#8220;But the tenants said to one another, &#8216;This is the heir. Come, let&#8217;s kill him, and the inheritance will be ours.&#8217; So they took him and killed him, and threw him out of the vineyard.<br />
&#8220;What then will the owner of the vineyard do? He will come and kill those tenants and give the vineyard to others. Haven&#8217;t you read this scripture:<br />
&#8220;&#8216;The stone the builders rejected<br />
has become the capstone;<br />
the Lord has done this,<br />
and it is marvelous in our eyes&#8217;?&#8221;<br />
</i><br />
I have to concede a point here. If Satan could have killed the Son then he would not have a Church to infiltrate. Today Satan has the Church to deal with and blindness and deafness are such effective weapons against it. Just like the Jews, so is the Church; we never heard the voices of the Prophets who are read every Sabbath; when Jesus came they missed Him, even though they lived, ate, and slept with the Scriptures. Will we miss Him, with all our vast intelligence?</p>
<p>2 Peter 2:1-3<br />
<i>&#8220;But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them — bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.&#8221;<br />
</i><br />
Need I point out that this is talking about the demise of the Church as of 2006.</p>
<p>You might still be asking along with Tim, “I have no idea how Mr. Blackwell arrived at this conclusion,” if so consider the following. What do you say Christianity is? If I say I’m a Christian does that make it so? If I raise my hand at some prompt and say I accept Jesus, does that make me a Christian? What does a Christian look like? Who is a Christian by definition?</p>
<p>Pretend for a moment that you are someone who desires to be as rich as Bill Gates but at last tally had only accumulated a mere $50.00. If you were to call yourself a billionaire, should we go along with you because you are trying; would we be foolish enough to believe, because you use certain language, that you are indeed as rich as Bill Gates? I think wisdom would say, “Say to yourself my son, my daughter, ‘I am not a billionaire’ and guard against being called a fool.”</p>
<p>The point is this: if there is to be any meaning to what you have said you must at least resemble whatever it is you are striving towards. In order to hide the fact that this person is not a billionaire it simply becomes a matter of “confessing” positively that you are a billionaire and that you are at least trying to become a billionaire.  Having said that you can conclude that a person has to do nothing to become as rich as Bill Gates; how ridiculous. Anyone who reads the New Testament with any kind of desire to see what Christianity looks like has to see that there is nothing around us that “at least resembles” what we are trying to become. Consequently we are all made out to be fools: duped, tricked, and deceived. Jesus never once asked for admirers, supporters, or want-a-be’s. He only wanted followers and disciples.</p>
<p>Or, what about this? Is the Gospel for the poor or for the rich? Jesus said <i>“the Gospel is preached to the poor.”</i> Was this just a historical study or was He saying the Gospel was to be preached to the poor? My conclusion from reading the Bible is that the vast majority of the preaching was to the poor, by the poor. It was preached not just to the poverty stricken, but the poor wretched, the poor wronged, the poor oppressed, the poor crippled and lame and leprous and demonic. The Gospel was very Good New to them. It wasn’t money, good health, status, and all that garbage—No, this isn’t Christianity. Poorness in the world today, in this great United States, is turned into, not misfortune, but guilt. Originally, poorness was looked at as nearness to God. To be poor in this world is to be rich in the next. That is the way it was originally; this is the Gospel of the New Testament. It was preached to the poor, by the poor.</p>
<p>But soon there came a change. When preaching the Gospel became a livelihood, then the gospel became the good news of the rich. It became in the best interest of the preacher to swing the door open wide and secure the ranks of the rich and famous and the connected. It was then that the Good News ceased to be good tidings, transforming suffering and sorrow into joy. Now it has become a warranty of good times and a life intensified by drama and video and orchestras, and all wrapped up and secured with the hope of eternity. Today the gospel is preached to the rich and influential. Now, wait a minute. Aren’t we right back, all over again, to the very state Jeremiah talked about, to the very state that original Christianity opposed? The rich, wise and powerful get their cake and eat it too. They get to keep all their riches here on earth and then go bounding off to heaven, how absolutely wonderful Christianity has become, it has surely been perfected, how pleased Jesus must be.</p>
<p>Tim, Tim, Tim, I am afraid if you can’t see it, you won’t see it. School is almost out, finals are almost ready, and then we will know who passes. If we will discover, which I’m sure most will not, the way back, if we will return, if we will follow that inner leading to let go of this world, then we will know whereof Jesus spoke, whether it was from Himself or from the Father, John 7:17.</p>
<p>I said I was going to clarify a couple of things. The other thing I wanted to respond to was Tim’s remarks to my statement concerning Rick Warren. I think I will wait. What I will say though is that simply to use religious language and write best selling books does not make you favorable in God’s eyes. Remember Satan and the garden?</p>
<p>My heart aches as I write this because I know the time is so short and we are so blind.</p>
<p>God help us.</p>
<p>If you need more proof that that is where we are today go to God’s Word, it’s all there.<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p align="center"><a href="http://www.austin-sparks.net/english/002993.html"><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: small;"><strong> The Offence of the Cross (1932) </strong></span></a><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;"><br />
<em>by   T. Austin-Sparks </em></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;"> </span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;">It is a perfectly obvious fact  that wherever the Cross of the Lord Jesus Christ has been most faithfully  preached and presented &#8211; while bringing hope and new life to many &#8211; it has  almost invariably been the cause of trouble. </span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;">Wherever it has gone it has  aroused antagonism. As it was a stumbling-block to the Jews and an absurdity to  the Greeks in the first days, so, ever since, it has been unacceptable, not only  to the men of the world as such, but to the religious communities also. This we  unhesitatingly affirm to be as true today as ever, in spite of the fact that it  is the most popular symbol in the world. There is hardly a city in Christendom  where the architecture, galleries of art, collections of literature and  conservatoires of music and religious institutions do not declare to the world a  certain regard and honour for this sacred sign. </span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;">This may be a tribute to something  deeper but it is that deeper thing which is absolutely unacceptable to the  greater part of Christendom and the world.</span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;">It is found necessary even in  certain phases of some missionary enterprise today to eliminate from the  text-books and hymn books the mention of the Cross lest it offend.</span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;">Much of the preaching and teaching  in the Christian Church is either confined to the &#8220;Historic Jesus&#8221;, which  presents a Crossless Christ, or gives a very modified meaning to His death. And  yet it is surely necessary to get rid of the Bible before we can get rid of the  fact that it unites in all its parts to declare that the Cross is God&#8217;s Way of  salvation, God&#8217;s sufficient and God&#8217;s <em>only</em> way. </span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;">It is, further, surely very clear  that the Cross has proved to be the means upon which God has made to rest the  full weight of His mighty saving power. It was dominant in New Testament days.  The recovery of, or re-emphasis upon some vital and essential phase of that  Cross gave rise to such movements as are signified by the names of Luther,  Moody, Finney, Jonathan Edwards, Whitfield, the Wesleys, Spurgeon and many other  especially God-honoured men.</span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;">Now we ask why has the Cross  always been such a maker of trouble and such a cause of offence? And why is it  that it is today behind much of the upheaval even in many of our professedly  evangelical institutions and denominations, Christian homes, local churches and  individual Christian lives?</span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;">This we will seek to answer, but  first let us discriminate. It is not the heroics of the Cross or the aesthetics  that cause the trouble. Sacrifice, suffering, unselfish devotion, self-effacing  service for the good of others, enduring the penalty of setting oneself against  the evil current of the times, etc.; these are romantic elements and are seized  upon as the themes by which multitudes are captured and captivated. It is the  deeper meaning which the Bible gives to the Cross which causes the aggravation,  this can be seen in one or two clearly defined applications.</span></p>
<p align="center"><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;"><strong>1. The Cross condemns  the world.</strong></span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;">In His Cross Christ created a  great divide between the old world and the new, a divide which cannot be  bridged. Two distinctly different systems, scales of value, standards of  judgment, sets of laws, prevail on the two sides of the Cross, the system of  each is not only entirely different, but irreconcilable and forever antagonistic  to the other. </span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;">The Cross demands an absolute  distinctiveness of interests and objectives, relationships and resources. It  draws the final distinction between the saved and the unsaved, between the  living and the dead.</span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;">The apostle Paul said that by the  Cross he had &#8220;been crucified to the world&#8221; and the world crucified to him. The  Word of God emphatically declares that the age is evil and that &#8220;the whole world  lieth in the wicked one&#8221; and that its ways, motives, purposes, ideas and  imaginations are all the opposite of God&#8217;s and that it is utterly incapacitated  from either receiving the revelation of the divine mind, growing of itself into  the divine image, enjoying and appreciating real fellowship with God, or being  entrusted with the privilege of co-operation with God.</span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;">These are alone the consciousness,  capacities, relationships of the newly-born or regenerated soul. It is this  verdict, condemnation, and demand of the Cross which is unacceptable and  irritating to a very great number of professing Christians. Further, it is the  presence of much that is called &#8220;worldliness&#8221; both in the individual Christian  life and in the Church which absolutely neutralises their effectiveness in the  realisation of the essential purposes of the Cross. </span></p>
<p align="center"><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;"><strong>2. The Cross crucifies  the flesh.</strong></span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;">By it the Word of God declares  that &#8220;our old man has been crucified with Christ&#8221; (Romans 6:6). &#8220;One died for  all, therefore all died in Him, that they which live should henceforth live no  longer unto themselves, but unto him&#8221; (2 Corinthians 5:14-15). We have tried to  bring some of the old creation life into the new creation and God won&#8217;t have it.  The history of the fallen race was concluded so far as God was concerned at  Calvary. From that time onward, God&#8217;s entire concern was the new creation, but  alike our human capabilities as well as our infirmities; what we call our better  side as our worse; our goodness and our badness have been included in that  death. Henceforth we are called to live not on a human level but on a divine.  Humanly we possess nothing which is acceptable to God.</span></p>
<p>It is always the assertion of some human element, some like or dislike, some fad  or fancy, some ambition or some personal interest, which paralyses the real  spiritual work of God. To regard not only our sins but ourselves as having been  taken to the Cross by Christ is the only way by which those purposes of God can  be wrought out through our lives. It is strange that while we ourselves are the  bane of our own existence, the trouble of our own lives, we are so slow to  accept our crucification with Christ, to have the Cross wrought out to our death  in order that the life of Christ might be made manifest in us. Herein lies the  offence of the Cross, not only for the worldling but also for the Christian.</p>
<p align="center"><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;"><strong>3. The Cross casts out  the devil.</strong></span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;">Here we touch, perhaps, the  deepest cause of the offence, for the world and the flesh are only the  instruments and weapons by which the great hierarchy of Satan maintains its hold  and its existence as the controlling force. Christ said as He approached the  Cross, &#8220;Now is the prince of this world cast out&#8221; (John 12:31). Paul reflecting  upon that Cross said that by it: &#8220;Christ stripped off principalities and powers,  making a show of them openly, and triumphed over them&#8221; (Colossians 2:15).</span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;">It is perfectly natural, then,  that the great hierarchy of evil should by every means and resource seek to make  the Cross of none effect. By the &#8220;pale cast of thought&#8221; it will dilute the  message of the Cross; by pushing in the world&#8217;s methods, its means, its spirit,  it will sap the spiritual vitality of the Church; by stirring up the flesh, the  self and the old Adam it will cause schism, strain and disintegration; or by  making much of the human element in its artistic, aesthetic, heroic,  humanitarian side, it will be blind to the need of regeneration. Reputation,  popularity, bigness, the world standard of success, are all contrary to the  spirit of Christ, but they are the toys with which the enemy engrosses the minds  of many, even Christian ministers.</span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;">If, therefore, the Cross is  preached in the full victory over and emancipation from the world, the flesh and  the devil, it is to be expected that by hook or by crook the intelligent forces  of evil will leave no stone unturned to stop it, and will stir up every cause of  offence to lay to the account of the Cross. </span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;">In conclusion let us not forget  that the enjoyment of the full life of God, the experience of victory, and  executive co-operation with Him that sitteth upon the throne in the sure  realisation that His eternal purposes are ours just in so far as we are one with  the full and essential meaning of the Cross as set forth in the Word of God. &#8220;I  have been crucified with Christ, henceforth&#8230; no longer I but Christ.&#8221; &#8220;They  overcame him because of the blood of the Lamb, and because of the word of their  testimony, and they counted not their lives dear unto the death&#8221; (Revelation  12:11).</span></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[“The Holy Spirit will lead you into all righteousness” are truthful words that should not be ignored. The subject of “baptism,” of which I have given very little thought over the years, has all of a sudden risen up in my spirit as something that needs attention. I decided to pursue this leading and see [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>“The Holy Spirit will lead you into all righteousness”</em> are truthful words that should not be ignored. The subject of “baptism,” of which I have given very little thought over the years, has all of a sudden risen up in my spirit as something that needs attention. I decided to pursue this leading and see where it goes. I’m beginning to recognize that God is trying to make me see something deeper and wider in “baptism.”</p>
<p>Baptism is generally looked at as a New Testament doctrine. Can we find baptism in the Old Testament as a general principle? Yes, and it is only right that we start there. Most of what is observable from the churches of today is that they start with the New Testament scriptures on baptism then try and contort the Old Testament to conform. The O.T. came first, and the characters in that former Book were no less familiar with baptism than are the characters of the latter Book. When we look for baptism in the O.T. we do not overtly recognize spiritual truth, but rather we look for the concrete and material display of that spiritual truth. New Testament baptism cannot be properly understood without also understanding Old Testament types and principles.</p>
<p>What are the deeper spiritual implications of baptism that are consistent with God’s character that flow throughout the entire Old and new Testaments? Is baptism just a N.T. ordinance to be practiced and obeyed like another “law”? If the O.T. and the N.T. are to be understood as a whole, or total complete thought of God, shouldn’t we desire to know how that thought of baptism plays out in the O.T.? Isn’t God’s counsel to us that we should see and understand the “whole” truth of Scripture as revealed in both Testaments? Some would say that “the devil is in the details,” but a better understanding would be that the Holy Spirit is revealing to us the details and leading us through deep waters.</p>
<p>Do we dare call those godly characters of the Old Testament <strong><em>“saints”</em></strong> unless we know for sure that they comprehended the principle of the “cross,” even though they could not define it in New Testament language, and if they did understand the principle of the “cross” will we deny that they must also have understood the principle of baptism, which is inseparably linked to the cross? To understand God’s mind in the spiritual application of the cross, in the O.T., is to understand the spiritual application of baptism also, because they are linked throughout the whole Bible. There is no cross without baptism. There is no baptism without the cross. There is no death without burial, and there is no burial without death. Both of these ingredients are necessary to produce the final product, which is “life.” The spiritual understanding of either the cross or baptism proceeds from the understanding of one or the other of these components.</p>
<p>If we say that we understand the principle of the cross, and are then simply baptized as a formality, rule, or church ordinance, then we do not yet understand properly, and have not fully understood the cross. To compact this knowledge into the Old Testament and New Testament statement that <em>“the just shall live by faith”</em> is to deliver the principle of the cross and baptism in capsulized form, or in seed form, and that seed is the seed that must <em>“fall to the ground and die&#8230;”</em> and being buried, produces much fruit.</p>
<p>So baptism is not just another discipline to be achieved as the correct practice of a Christian life, it is life itself; it is redemption; it is salvation, and it was understood as such by all the “saints” of old.</p>
<div style="text-align: center;">Baptism in the Life of Abraham</div>
<p>Now we need to look for this principle. There are several New Testament passages which point to specific Old Testament events, and explicitly call them “baptisms”.  So even if we try to start with the New Testament to study baptism, it just proceeds to point us back to the Old Testament.  The apostle Peter said that Noah’s flood was a type of baptism.  The apostle Paul said that the Israelites were actually baptized during the exodus from Egypt.  The apostle John and the author of Hebrews each recognized that the ceremonial purifications of the Old Testament were baptisms.  The idea of “baptism” was not remotely new to the New Testament church.  There had already been many baptisms in Israel’s history and practice, and so we must seek to understand these baptisms first, if we truly wish to understand the significance of baptism in the New Testament. Although Abraham is not mentioned explicitly with the term “baptism” he nonetheless understood the principle as well as any other.</p>
<p>Most people will use words such as :sprinkle, pouring, immersion, dipping, cleansing, christening, etc., when searching for related term for baptism. Terms that are more appropriate, and deal more with the meaning, rather than the sacrament, are: separation, through, in, death, cutting off, putting off, and, in Abraham’s case, circumcision <em>“the cutting off of the foreskin”</em> as the sign of the covenant in the flesh.</p>
<p>Genesis 17:1-2, 7, 9-11</p>
<p><em>“When Abram was ninety-nine years old, the Lord appeared to him and said, ‘I am God Almighty; <strong>walk before me and be blameless</strong>.  I will confirm my covenant between me and you and will greatly increase your numbers.’” “ I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you.” “Then God said to Abraham, ‘As for you, <strong>you must keep my covenant, you and your descendants after you for the generations to come.</strong> This is my covenant with you and your descendants after you, the covenant you are to keep: Every male among you shall be circumcised. <strong>You are to undergo circumcision, and it will be <span style="color: #ff0000;">the sign</span> of the covenant between me and you.</strong>’” </em></p>
<p>The command <em>&#8220;Walk before me and be blameless&#8221;</em> has a definite ethical emphasis. &#8220;Walk in front of&#8221; expresses the service or devotion of a faithful servant to his king. &#8220;Be blameless&#8221;  or &#8220;be perfect&#8221;  is the Hebrew adverb tānīm, &#8220;complete.&#8221; It refers to animals which are without blemish, and is also translated as such related adjectives as &#8220;full, whole, upright, perfect. It represents the divine standard for man&#8217;s attainment. In other words, God expects Abraham to live a righteous life before him, but how was Abraham to do this? Wasn’t this the same as demanding perfection? Isn’t this the same request of God that draws so many chuckles from Christians today, with the echoed response of “Nobody can be perfect”?</p>
<p>If we can learn to see the type or shadow of baptism in one of the ancient saints then we should be able to discover the element in the others also.</p>
<p>Looking at Abraham, where do we see his baptism? Was his baptism the circumcision of himself and company, no, that was only the sign of something Abraham already understood? The cutting away of the flesh symbolized his disassociation from everything called the “world.” <strong>His baptism was the actual separation and putting off of the flesh (not just circumcision) that was required by a life of “faith.”</strong> His baptism was the response of a clean conscience in his obedience and trust of God’s ability to perform and keep His promises. His baptism was all the trials that are incorporated into a walk of faith, including the separation from certain family members, and the offering up to God the very thing that he devoted to and loved the most. His baptism was to die daily to all of his own desires, and to go, and “be” an instrument and vessel of the will of God. His baptism was “death” to self, no different than that required of Christians today, no different.</p>
<p>That symbol of baptism, whether circumcision or water, means death. For all those who were circumcised in Abraham’s day and lived for the “good life now” their circumcision is counted as un-circumcision, just like those who are water baptized today as a mere sacrament are treated as un-baptized.</p>
<p>The principle of baptism and the principle of circumcision are identical, one is the putting away of the flesh, and the other is the putting away of the old man. The cutting away of the flesh of the heart (which circumcision represented), and the putting away of the old man (which baptism represents) produce the same result, DEATH and BURIAL. God’s promise includes a new heart beating in One new man, the Church, the Body of Christ.</p>
<p>Life in the Good Land is a promise of the here and now, but can only be had by a spiritual understanding of the principle of the cross and baptism. Only resurrected saints, who have died, cross over Jordan, and only a continual life of “faith” guarantees passage into Eternal Life.</p>
<p>Again, I will say that baptism does save us, but it is the understanding of baptism that is our salvation, not the water. The water is but the seal of the covenant between God and man, just like circumcision was in Abraham’s case. There is very little that modern christians understand “spiritually,” and “church” only makes the matter worse, in nearly all cases. Paul’s words should alarm us here; <em>“your meetings do more harm than good.”</em> We are living in the days of which Joel and Amos speak, and men search from shore to shore for food, but find only corn husks. This is also the day in which God says He <em>“will pour out His Spirit on all flesh.”</em> The life of faith is still required by God. We must not be tricked back into the flesh for the sake of “doctrine” or rules, or counsels, or man’s sake. We must follow the example of our Lord Jesus, and the example of our father Abraham.</p>
<p>Steve Blackwell</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[There has been a lot of discussion and debate on the blogs I have visited lately, and no little heat generated, on both sides of the issue of baptismal regeneration. But, one thing that is obviously missing is the spiritual perspective and meaning of baptism. Baptism is one of those topics that men love to [...]]]></description>
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<p>There has been a lot of discussion and debate on the blogs I have visited lately, and no little heat generated, on both sides of the issue of baptismal regeneration. But, one thing that is obviously missing is the <strong>spiritual </strong>perspective and meaning of baptism.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"><span style="font-size: small;">Baptism is one of those topics that men love to argue about, but never come to a settled agreement on. The career of men on the face of the earth dictates that he win, by argument, or by force a rational and true definition of what God means in His Holy Scriptures, and I cannot exclude myself. It matters not a tittle that that same Holy Scripture says that God cannot be known that way, the arguments persist. Men of the flesh do what men of the flesh do: they jostle for position and pummel their opponents, so that they can secure for themselves that cherished place of peace and rest, but it is only in their minds; it is a restless rest that robs them of their peace, as long as there is conflict. Men love puzzles and mysteries also, and to decode or piece together the mystery of Godliness is the ultimate prize. </span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: small;">Men have never tired of asking &#8220;<em>what must I do to be saved?</em>&#8221; and they cherish the idea that they have discovered just what it is they must do, more than they cherish God&#8217;s free gift. But, the question is nonetheless valid, and the answer is very much related to baptism. Does baptism save us? The Bible says so. Baptism does save us, but it is not sprinkling, dipping, or dunking. We must confess, if we think that there is something that we can add to the finished work of Christ, that we are in error. Our salvation has absolutely nothing to do with anything that we can think, do, or manufacture, by way of the flesh, and Scripture make this abundantly clear. If the Bible says that &#8220;baptism saves us&#8221; we must not jump to the conclusion, that we participate in any way, in the work that only Christ could do. We must then admit that there is yet another greater, deeper, application of God&#8217;s word that is yet unrevealed to us. The flesh, in any capacity, is useless as a means of achieving God&#8217;s pardon. Likewise, baptism contributes nothing in our ability to achieve holiness, or to attain understanding. If we do not confess and believe that we have no part in our salvation, then we are deceived, deluded, and damned. If we fail to grasp the spiritual significance of baptism, we have simply, FAILED, for the significance is that it does save us, if we can comprehend that <strong>sign</strong>ificance. It is that sign that we have died.</span><span style="font-size: small;"> My father is dead, and if at times I want to believe that he still lives, I only have to return to the graveyard and look at the tombstone to be brought back to my senses. That stone reminds me of the day that my father died. He is dead, and I am dead, and my baptism in water stands as my reminder, that I am really dead to this world&#8217;s enticements, when I become disillusioned by that same world and flesh.</span><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"></span></span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"><span style="font-size: small;">There is a principle here that is not just for the New Testament. That principle stands as a monument in the lives of all those who have experienced spiritual life, going all the way back to Able. Also, baptism means nothing apart from the “cross.” The principle of the cross and the principle of baptism are inseparably linked “in Christ” and understood only in His act on Calvary. All of Scripture, from beginning to end, is an exposition of these two principles, for living life in the <em>“good land.” </em>Without a spiritual understanding of these, there is no “new birth.” There is no supernatural life, there is no deliverance, there is no “taking the Land,” there is no answer to Jabaz’s prayer of expanded boundaries, there is no chapter eleven of the book of Hebrews, there is no killing of Goliath, and there is no Christian life. What I am trying to communicate is that there is no life without death, and there is no new life without resurrection, and there is neither without the separation or crisis distinguished by baptism, which is our burial or immersion into the death of Jesus. Does baptism save us? You bet, as does the cross, because they are of the same stuff, the same fabric, both cut from the same piece of Spiritual material. Death and burial, if they are real, cannot be separated. We may choose to hide the body of a loved one in some secret place, a closet, then have a memorial service and say many good things about the person and return home to adorn the dead body. How long can this go on undetected? It won’t be long before our lie becomes apparent. Dead bodies must be buried. <em>“A seed of corn must fall to the ground and die, or it remains alone.”</em> Death, real death, is the key that unlocks the door to the<em> “good land.” </em>It is finding ourselves, reckoning ourselves, dead with Christ, daily, continually, always dying to life in this world, and then submitting ourselves for burial, as it were, to all that this world has to offer. <em>“There is nothing in this world that I desire,</em>” Christ has become my all-in-all, He is the very breath of the new life I live.<em> “Know you not that you have died with Christ. How can you then live anymore in this world?” </em> Being baptized is being immersed in all that Christ is and means, and that is salvation, is it not? And if we are not baptized in Christ then we have not the life of Christ.</span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;">“<span style="font-size: small;"><em>I have come to cast a fire on the earth; and I wish that it was already kindled? But I have a baptism to be baptized with, and how am I constrained until it shall be accomplished!” </em>(Luke 12:49-50) </span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;">“<span style="font-size: small;"><em>But Jesus said unto them, Ye know not what ye ask: can ye drink of the cup that I drink of? and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with?” </em> (Mark 10:38)</span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;">“<span style="font-size: small;"><em>Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?” </em> (Romans 6:3)</span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"><span style="font-size: small;">Here we have a few verses that are not normally considered in the discussion about baptism. I suppose the question is whether or not these verses are to be regarded when we discuss church order, liturgy, or rites. Many would say that there is no connection between what is being said here and the command to be baptized, like Acts 2:38 and others, but are they correct? Wouldn’t you agree that it is necessary to understand what Jesus and Paul and Peter are talking about before we move out into the water and turn something glorious into a mere church ordinance, form, or sacrament? </span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;">“<span style="font-size: small;"><em>I have come to cast fire upon the earth&#8230;,” </em> was the result of Jesus’ resurrection, and is one of the purposes of His coming in the first place. What was that fire? It was that thing that turned the world upside down. It was the heat generated by the withdrawal of many from this world’s system of doing things. It was the nonconformity of born twice saints submersing themselves in the New Order of the Spirit, which caused the spontaneous combustion of such things that were found to consist of <em>“wood, hay, and stubble.”</em> It is the apparent differentiating of what is of this world, including its religious organizations, from what is of Christ. The blazing of the Spirit, in the people of God, through the parched fields of this planet cannot prevent combustion. The fire that Jesus cast on the earth spread rapidly, and burns to this very day, whenever the Spirit is released. When the Spirit of God comes in contact with the spirit of this world a fire is sure to erupt, and it is fair to say, that where there is no fire, there is no Spirit. The inability to cause a fire should be of grave concern to those who profess to be Christian. The Spirit filled Christian does not have to go looking for kindling, it is all around them, just like the darkness, it is everywhere, the light is simply <em>“light.” </em></span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"><span style="font-size: small;">But, “the light” is related to these individuals in a special way, death and resurrection. In this last sentence is the answer to the baptism of which Jesus was constrained to perform. In the previous verses of Luke 12 Jesus is looking at this crowd of followers and no doubt grieves as He gives advise about not being greedy, and worrying about food, and clothing, and the cares of this life. Then He breaks out at verse 49 about His purpose of burning things down, division, and baptism. “What are you saying Lord, what are you talking about,” you can almost hear His followers saying. Those people were in a hopeless position, and Jesus knew it, and with the prospect of His Passion just up ahead He was distressed, and He longed to have it past. The solution that those followers needed was locked away in that cross. In that passion was the “freedom” they needed to be free to understand what He had just told them. His baptism, and their baptism loomed heavy on the horizon, and it meant death for them all, the only way to life.</span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;">“<span style="font-size: small;"><em>But Jesus said unto them, Ye know not what ye ask: can ye drink of the cup that I drink of? and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with?” </em> (Mark 10:38)</span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"><span style="font-size: small;">This baptism of which He speaks is forever linked to the cross. It is the way, and the only way, but it divides and separates. It is a question of being delivered out of <em>“the kingdom of darkness into the kingdom of the Son of His love”</em> (Col. 1:12,13). <em>“That which is born of the flesh is flesh,” </em>and<em> “flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God,” </em>(1 Cor. 15:50). It matters not how well we perform our ceremonies of baptism, or how much we improve the flesh, or how culturally relevant we become, it is still the flesh, and flesh is flesh. Are you beginning to understand what Jesus is saying? Water baptism means nothing apart from Spirit life. <em>“Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit. He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal,”</em> (John 12:24-25). We have our share in His cross, to<em> “&#8230;fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body&#8217;s sake, which is the church:” </em> (Colossians 1:24). Does this sound like freedom? I suspect that it does not to many, but this is the way of the cross, and of life, and of freedom.</span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;">“<span style="font-size: small;"><em>Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?” </em> (Romans 6:3)</span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"><span style="font-size: small;">There is so much more that could be said, but let me make some final points. Paul here is talking to all those who say that “baptism saves you.” Don’t you realize that it is about death, Christ’s death, and that we must make it our own. <em>“Know ye not”</em> that you have the curse of death on you, and that you will cross one threshold or the other, into life eternal, or into forever death? The tremendous power gained through Jesus’ baptism into death is equal to the immensity of the thing done on the cross. The effect of the cross in our lives should be commensurate with that.</span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"><span style="font-size: small;">Well, what have we finally come to in all of this, a better ceremony, a prettier certificate, a solemn event, or the understanding that we have to enter into a new understanding of the cross, the resurrection, and the burial of our Lord, Jesus? The cross is not just the preliminary event in our Christian life, “where we first saw the light;” that is but the threshold, the beginning. It is not here meant to deprive us of some worldly pleasures. It is not the thousand pound weight that crushes us. It is the way of freedom and life, no less than it was for Joshua, or Moses, or Paul, or Peter, or any of the saints of old, and we, as was our Lord, should be “<em>constrained” </em>till the freshness of this baptism is accomplished in us.</span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"><span style="font-size: small;">There is an old world and there is a new world, and in between the two there is a tomb. <em>“I have been crucified with Christ,” </em>but my burial is by consent. Our loved one may die and we may choose to believe that they are alive, and not bury them. It is only when we are convinced that they are, indeed, dead, that we commit them to the grave. My baptism confirms my death, and no memorial service will do, while I stash the body in the closet; our sins will find us out. We must die, and we must be buried. My baptism is my confirmation that I have been cut off from this world and a citizen of another world. Everything that is of the flesh, of this world, must die, all my talents and attributes, all my desires and longings, and all my selfishness and vanity, all my entertainment and gluttony, it is all of this flesh and world, and has been rejected by God, and must die. Only what is of faith and trust in Jesus will survive. Most new Christians come across the threshold pulling a wagon with all their flesh in tow. Their great desires to now use their talents to build something for God must be put on the altar along with their very “self,” then God will be heard to say that it is accepted, and the aroma sweet.</span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;">“<span style="font-size: small;"><em>For if we have been <strong>planted</strong> together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth <strong>we should not serve sin. For he that is dead is freed from sin.” </strong></em> (Romans 6:5-7)</span></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today I saw a bumper sticker that read &#8220;So Many Christians, So Few Lions.&#8221; I had pulled into a McDonald&#8217;s for lunch and happened to come along side a nice looking Mercedes automobile with this sticker on the bumper, so I pulled in beside it. I decided to wait for a few minutes to see [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-292" title="christians_fed_to_lions" src="http://www.indywatchman.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/christians_fed_to_lions-300x182.jpg" alt="christians_fed_to_lions" width="300" height="182" />Today I saw a bumper sticker that read &#8220;<strong>So Many Christians, So Few Lions</strong>.&#8221; I had pulled into a McDonald&#8217;s for lunch and happened to come along side a nice looking Mercedes automobile with this sticker on the bumper, so I pulled in beside it. I decided to wait for a few minutes to see if the driver would return. I wanted to ask him if he really felt that much hatred for Christians that he could actually kill them. After a little while I decided I could not wait any longer and went into the restaurant for lunch. I looked around at the crowd to see if I could pick out the person who had such disgust with followers of Jesus, but I was way off. As people left I kept looking over my shoulder to see who might own the car. I discounted the young people and the blue collar crowd, but saw several women and men who might fit the bill. A couple ladies left, but they didn&#8217;t own the car. Then a middle aged man, wearing what looked like a surgeons outfit, complete with a head scarf displaying some NFL logo, headed in that direction. I had not suspected him because the outfit he wore projected a different message, a message of trust and healing and care; boy was I fooled.</p>
<p>How many times have we put our trust in individuals who, if they knew we were Christians, would gladly feed us to the lions. Many today are proud of their anti-Christian associations and even promote their anger and hatred over the internet and with placards, and billboards, and bumper stickers, even in Indiana. Some day that hatred will reach a fever pitch, and Jews and Christians will become like varmints, to be destroyed. It may be hard to believe, but it is true, and it may be sooner than we think; <strong>are you ready!</strong></p>
<p>Steve Blackwell</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is a sermon that most people, in the New Age Church of the 21st century, will never hear. Most church planters will find in this sermon instructions on how NOT to grow a Church. But, what we WILL find in this sermon, if we understand the Bible, is the laying of a solid foundation, [...]]]></description>
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		<title>The Cup And The Fire: The Brotherhood Of Suffering</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reading: Mark 10:35-39; Matthew 26:27, 28, 39, 42; Luke 22:20; John 18:11; 1 Corinthians 10:16, 11:26 I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled! But, I have a baptism to undergo, and how distressed I am until it is completed! (Luke 12:49, 50 NIV) Read these [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Reading</i>: Mark 10:35-39; Matthew 26:27, 28, 39, 42; Luke 22:20; John 18:11; 1 Corinthians 10:16, 11:26</p>
<div align="center"><i>I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were<br />
already kindled! But, I have a baptism to undergo, and how<br />
distressed I am until it is completed!</i> (Luke 12:49, 50 NIV)</div>
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Read these passages then read the last passage. In it the Lord marries the cup and the fire, and what He has joined together let no man put asunder. There is no way to get around the indication that the scattering of the fire is linked to and dependent on the drinking of the cup. In these words we can find a spiritual law which can be viewed through time, and that is, that where there has been no cup there has been no fire. Where you find the cup you will find the fire. Start with the very first assembly of believers and trace through history the persecutions, the sufferings of God’s people and you will find the progress of His Word and His Body, the Church. It is apparent that in the Church today there has been a divorce between the cup and the fire. But, in the very heart of God’s purpose there is a cup and it is only by drinking this cup that there is any real Spiritual maturity. If we drink the cup we can be assured we will mature. It is a spiritual law.</p>
<div align="center"><b>One Small Problem: It Doesn’t Make Sense</b></div>
<p>It won’t take you long to see where I’m going with this, if you haven’t guessed already. Do you see the conflict with the average Christian today? “What is all this stuff about a cup that we have to drink?” “Is this suffering he’s talking about?” “Ha? I signed up for peace and love, and joy and hope, and life and liberty!” “I was told I could have it all, today, without all that old fashioned modernist view of suffering.” Today we have given birth to millions of Christians who are near sighted. What they see is the short view of abbreviated Christianity, but that is the new improved gospel of our day; it is another gospel, not the Gospel of the Apostles. On the other side of joy and love and peace and hope is another realm which does not contradict the first, but is characterized by suffering. Jesus took the two and married them. “He took the cup and gave thanks”—it says, <i>“He gave thanks.”</i> He blessed the cup and wedded joy with sorrow; we have that fellowship with His suffering. We can have rest and peace and hope in the presence of our enemies; isn’t that the message of the 23rd Psalm?</p>
<p>It is important that we clear away the fog on this matter or we will be in big trouble later when our ill conceived house falls on our heads. Many more make a mental assent to suffering but really think and often argue that Christianity should be an unbroken chain of happy events; one continuous, long playing, lighthearted, joyful, tiptoeing-through-the-tulips, never frowning, always smiling, kind-of-life. If it isn’t all of this and more then Christianity has obviously failed, and something has gone wrong somewhere. If this is how you think, then you have misread your New Testament! On the opposite side there is the farsighted Christian who thinks that the righteous life is all about suffering, and this view is wrong also; it’s a marriage, a mingling of the sweetness and the sorrow. Don’t be afraid of joy; make the best of those times of great joy and laughter; it’s like a spiritual R &amp; R.</p>
<p>This cup, along with sweetness, is an apparent contradiction, but we must realize that it is not a natural thing; it is not something to be understood by those looking in from the outside. It is not for them, it is for you and for me. We can understand, when the Spirit pushes back the veil, parts the fog, and we gaze upon the One we love and we say along with Paul—<i>“sorrowful, yet always rejoicing”</i> (2 Cor. 6:10), or Peter—<i>“rejoicing with joy unspeakable and full of glory”</i> (1 Pet. 1:6-8). Some way, some how, we must get to this point; we must recognize the quality of the material, the pricelessness of the weave of the garment of which we are being clothed, one continuous, seamless garment called the Church. This Christian life is not superficial or shallow, it is vast, and it has a cup right at the core, it is the very heart of the matter. We must not look at those who sorrow with downcast eyes, as if they were intruding on our pleasure, for that is their time of sorrow and ours. If we are having a cloudless day and all is well don’t look down on the person who is having a tough time, his darkness is only temporary, there is nothing wrong with their Christianity. If we are the ones having the hard time, be patient with those who are not. Bring these together in your heart and know that they are different sides of the same coin; they are not two different things, they are one.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the Garden of Eden was the &#8220;tree of knowledge of good and evil. . . . And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat.&#8221; Genesis 2:9-17. It was the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://indywatchman.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/5240049-lg.jpg" title="two trees"><img src="http://indywatchman.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/5240049-lg.thumbnail.jpg" alt="two trees" /></a>In the Garden of Eden was the <i>&#8220;tree of knowledge of good and evil. . . . And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat.&#8221;</i> Genesis 2:9-17. It was the will of God that Adam and Eve should not know evil. The knowledge of good had been freely given to them; but the knowledge of evil was withheld. Why God did not want man to have this knowledge is not known precisely, but it is safe to say He did it in love for His new creation. What is known for sure is, for what ever reason God intended, it turned out to be a great test, one which man failed. Now, as a result, man had inherent access to a form of knowledge, of which in the beginning God either withheld for a period of time, or that man should never acquire or have need of. What matters at this point is that man knew about evil, along with good.</p>
<p>The tree of life was that nourishment that man required for life without the problems associated with the death process. With out free access to the tree of life man would die. God forbid, that He would allow mankind to perpetuate the vileness of what he had discovered, to live on without limitations; consequently, all men have to die. Where once free access was allowed to the tree of life now a more restricted way was ordained, a way of faith and belief. This at once appears to be an over simplistic method, but turns out to be a way that would be found by only a few. The aggregating problem turns out to be this new found knowledge of evil which had now incorporated itself into the life cycle of all mankind. Every decision and thought process now had multiple choices, and every conclusion was the result of numerous internal conflicts, of thought and reasoning, dealing with what is right and what is wrong. What had been, once upon a time, “second nature” so to speak, in knowing what the right thing to do ought to be, now became a challenge at every turn. Of course the whole ability to “reason” and make rational decisions became a sort of competition. Those who could explore this new ability and conquer the workings of the mind had a distinct advantage over his fellow man and learned that he could use this advantage to gain power over people and cause them to serve him. History has shown the extent to which men will go to gain an advantage over his brother through argumentation and “driving home a point.”  That same history shows us the utter failure of the wisdom of this world to determine God’s will.</p>
<p>From the very beginning knowing God’s will or being able to discern truth has been a mystery to those seeking the spiritual life. God has not cleverly disguised His desires on how man should seek and find Him. But, there has always been something that has caused man to miss being able to locate God and enter into fellowship with Him, that “something” is a knowledge that acts to trick or short circuit another kind of knowledge, that allows access to God.</p>
<p>The knowledge of evil has provided man with innumerable approaches to any question. Without having the ability to instantly know the right thing to do, man now has to filter through vast amounts of information: good, bad, and indifferent, to come to a reasoned conclusion. Trying to find the right answer, in these days of “knowledge” and information overload, becomes, in many cases, an impossible task for the minds of men, and getting close is most often good enough.<br />
The product of the organized/institutional church and what has been birthed from it is the result of the continued application of the reasoning of man to achieve a kingdom for God, who has openly declared that His Kingdom is not of this world. Man’s true efforts are really the feeble attempts of reaching out, when shaken, to steady himself on the foundation of his own thoughts. These thoughts when finished gives him a stabilization or assurance that he understands life and the mind of God. God, through His love, has forbidden us to eat from the tree of life, thereby disallowing us to corrupt eternity with the sin of our most reasonable thoughts. God, the Great Shepard, in a way that limits us severely, is trying to corral His sheep into a pathway that is bordered on either side by the covers of His written Word, the Bible. Truth, as revealed in these pages, is that strait and narrow way, and there is no knowing God’s mind and will outside the confines of these walls. Man in his reasoning and by his own ability plants both feet firmly on shifting sand, and proudly proclaims his discovering of secret ways into the realm of the Almighty. What he has failed to discern is that it is a lie, an illusion, produced by eating from the wrong tree; he has failed to discern good from evil. The discernment he needs exist nowhere outside the Bible, where the corrupted thinking processes of mans mind delve into endless discussions of <i>“what is truth?”</i></p>
<p>The Puritans, among others, knew through the Bible, that understanding was enhanced by a separation from the world. The influence of the world is tremendous in our days and this separation is critical if Christians wish to have spiritual fellowship with God. The less we rely on our own reasonable thinking or wisdom, as prescribed by Scripture, and simply trust the things we read in faith the more we will become convinced that Scripture really is the Word of God (Jn. 7:17). The Puritans understood that they had to close the door to the tree of knowledge if persevering to the end was to be a Godly pursuit. Satan had to be cut off at every entrance to their mind. He could not be allowed to infiltrate their mental processes of decision making. Likewise, we at the end of the age, if we are to survive, must be able to discern from which tree we are eating and if we have allowed intelligence and worldly study to dictate the directions we take in our pursuit of the Holy. All of this has to be done by faith and trust in the One who directs us into this narrow path, and that restricts us to “necessary” contact with those outside the walls of faith. Prodding those of The Faith to walk worthy of their calling is the purpose of the Church. The Puritans had their faults. They thought, by legislation, they could force members to “walk worthy.” Of course legalism is not the solution to Holiness, it has to be a voluntary obedience to the One who loves us. Paul made this clear in Gal. 3:21b  <i>“For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come by the law.”</i> If God’s Law was not adequate to impart holiness, obviously man’s laws will fall way short. Their legalism was a way to try and quicken the process of holiness by forcing their followers into a legal structure, but this only served to short circuit God’s grace and true faith. All this was, in effect, eating from the wrong tree; man’s reasoning applied to missionary work. The idea is to walk in a narrow path and to purposely restrict oneself to the confines of truth, as outlined in the Bible. Through the understanding that comes from life in the narrow way we experience freedom and liberty that are the fruits of faith and trust.</p>
<p>This life has to be pursued vigorously, by blocking out or <i>“dying to”</i> the elements related to the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, and living in the confines of the narrow way, all of your life long. This is not a bad thing, this is a good thing. Perseverance is made easier by disallowing worldly desires to be used to “stabilize” our life. Trying to reason out and solve problems by using the devises and advises of the world, or by a mixture of the world and truth, can only spell failure in the Kingdom of God. When our flesh tells us to grab something of the world in an effort to steady our self we our living a deluded Christian life. Faith, is not doing the things we declare to be harmless by clothing those things in “Christian” garb, or by using worldly methods, and then sanctifying it with a lot of prayer. We cannot or will not understand this as long as we are feeding from the evil tree, which is only promoting our own abilities to think and reason our way to godly thoughts and live a “religious” life.</p>
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